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Old 01-31-2008, 08:44 PM
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Louisville Green - 5-3-0

I need your input on this product from the Sewer Dept of Louisville (MSD) a local golf course owner is behind it and the local park system 9 courses and even Valhalla (Ryder Cup 2008) are using it. I met with the head of the Louisville Parks Dept this weekend and he says it is really working well for his 9 courses. This guy is a no BS guy (I've known him for 35 years) he never says somethings good unless it is great- type of guy. I wanted to post the lab results and PLEASE Kiril, ICT Bill, Gerry, Phasthound, Tim Wilson, tadhussey and all others please analize this and dissect it. The website is www.louisvillegreen.com
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Old 01-31-2008, 09:57 PM
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I'm confused, but it's probably cuz I'm new. but what the heck does recycled sewage have to do with organic turf?
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Old 02-01-2008, 09:48 AM
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I'll throw in my two cents.

I like the idea, you have to do something with the crap.

That being said, I might be concerned with prolonged use of this product (metals), and I almost certainly wouldn't use it in my garden.

Tom, since this is the only organic/sustainable forum on this site, everything that falls under the umbrella of sustainable ends up here.
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Old 02-01-2008, 09:54 AM
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Tom, New at what? Your reputation proceeds you

The arguments on this site about the strict interpretation of "organic" are long gone by.

We (I should say I) prefer to hear from all aspects of the industry and gently nudge people in the right direction rather than hitting them over the head with a sledge hammer and stopping the conversation

I don't think I would use that product in my yard either

What could you do with it?
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Old 02-01-2008, 10:18 AM
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is there any way to get the unwanted elements out of the mix?
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Old 02-01-2008, 11:42 AM
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I'll throw in my two cents.

I like the idea, you have to do something with the crap.
I certainly share the opinion that we need to find effective was of recycling this material. From that standpoint I like the *idea*.

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That being said, I might be concerned with prolonged use of this product (metals), and I almost certainly wouldn't use it in my garden.
Again we're on the same page, I wouldn't support it's use in parks either!

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Tom, since this is the only organic/sustainable forum on this site, everything that falls under the umbrella of sustainable ends up here.
That works for me...I am not an organics only practitioner. I have use issues with a number of "organic" fertilizers. But that's another thread...I prefer to evaluate a system based on the lack of toxins and peak nutrition. As a result sustainable models work better for me. Were this product sustainable I'd be willing to take a harder look, however I suspect the metals levels are not going to be static. Golf courses may be the safest use other than some sort of biological remediation of the waste to produce an innocuous waste product.
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Old 02-01-2008, 11:53 AM
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Tom, New at what? Your reputation proceeds you
Ah new at not being the king of my personal forest? Lots of taking deep breaths and relearning how to interface with the industry form an entirely different space. Gardening is still what keeps my interest, perhaps because there is always so much more to learn.

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The arguments on this site about the strict interpretation of "organic" are long gone by.
Great, I come completely unwilling to argue..
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We (I should say I) prefer to hear from all aspects of the industry and gently nudge people in the right direction rather than hitting them over the head with a sledge hammer and stopping the conversation
Excellent approach, I hope I fit well into that model.


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What could you do with it?
Bill I just don't know, but I do know there needs to be a solution. Maybe golf courses? That's a selfish solution by a non golfer

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Old 02-01-2008, 12:12 PM
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Are you guys dubious of bio-solids in general, Milorganite etc., or just
this Louisville stuff?
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Old 02-01-2008, 12:28 PM
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Are you guys dubious of bio-solids in general, Milorganite etc., or just
this Louisville stuff?
It is my personal choice to avoid bio solids in ANY of my gardens.
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Old 02-01-2008, 01:05 PM
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I wonder if it's possible to put the bio solid through some kind of further processing to reduce the heavy metals? Is that possible?
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