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Old 02-02-2008, 07:20 AM
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Nitro121 you hit the nail on the head. I AGREE FULLY!!! I'm still looking to get some simple questions answered in a thread titled "NEED SOME HELP"

From one response I felt like a 12 yr old on a bike looking to start a pressure wash service. I respect everyone on this site and there are a lot of professionals and impressive web sites........but just looking for some answers. Thanks guys.
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Old 02-03-2008, 10:43 PM
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there is a guy with yard signs all over my area $120 single story. Crazy Right. then i show up asking 300 looking like a jerk.
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Old 02-03-2008, 11:11 PM
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and get it according to everyone on this site. You'll find no matter where you post mowing, landscaping, seal coating.....everyone on here has started w/ 40 grand in equipment, would never think of cutting anyone a break, AND always charge high prices (even when just starting in business).

You will get great knowledge off the board as long as you look past the BS. It seems the mowers, pressure washers, seal coaters try to protect their jobs or make them sound like rocket science by talking big equipment and fees. But all of this stuff the local homeowner can do w/ out any training....might not be as efficent as a professional guy but it will come with time....and anyone can jump in to these businesses and make good money.

Anyway...don't pay attention to all the negative stuff the board will "say" you're doing and you'll get some good info. Everyone just worries there is some other "weekend warrior" on the board, in their area, and is going to take some of the gravy jobs away from them...so you'll always hear; you don't charge enough; you need this to succeed; you're a lowballer, etc..

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Tell me about it,i hear more negative crap on here then anything. No one really wants to help the new guy on here,all they want to do is talk alot of crap about how great they are and how many accounts they have and how anything you plan to do will fail.Personally im tired of the bull sht and i for one aint taking their bs anymore,so be preparied to get bashed right back from now on if you are going to be bashing on me.Its like they are so worried that you might actually succeed.I do appreciate the guys that do try to really give some good advice and try to understand that us new guys need support and not negativity all the time.I will just keep on keeping on and weed out the rift raft!
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Old 02-04-2008, 12:05 AM
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there is a guy with yard signs all over my area $120 single story. Crazy Right. then i show up asking 300 looking like a jerk.
There will always be someone trying to undercut your prices.
A one story house with vinyl siding should take about 50 minutes or less to wash so $120.00 is a bottom line price. You can up-sell the gutters which this guy will not be able to do right without the proper chemicals and technique (that's a given). This should bring you to $200.00 for 1h10 of work. More if you up-sell terrace, driveway, etc...
If the house is brick with mold on it, let him have it and see how long he will have to work to clean it up (without etching the brick that is )

Knowing what you provide, and being able to explain your customer the benefits is the key to success in Power Washing.

If you have questions about this, just ask...
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Old 02-04-2008, 11:03 PM
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Tell me about it,i hear more negative crap on here then anything. No one really wants to help the new guy on here,all they want to do is talk alot of crap about how great they are and how many accounts they have and how anything you plan to do will fail.Personally im tired of the bull sht and i for one aint taking their bs anymore,so be preparied to get bashed right back from now on if you are going to be bashing on me.Its like they are so worried that you might actually succeed.I do appreciate the guys that do try to really give some good advice and try to understand that us new guys need support and not negativity all the time.I will just keep on keeping on and weed out the rift raft!
I will help anyone who wants to learn about proper methods and pricing.I have done it time and again over the last 5 yrs.When "US" the guys that make our living pressure washing tell you or anyone else that low prices will not keep them afloat we know what we are talking about.We have literally seen as many or more pressure washing companies come and go as you have lawn companies.They all fail for the same reason.LACK OF KNOWLEGDE.
You and other don't like the pressure washing professionals giving you the cold hard facts because it's not what you want to hear.
If someone thinks the jag-off at Home Depot trying to sell them a pressure washer is an expert,think again.If the extent of their research into what pricing and proper methods entail are based on the same jag-offs advice,think again.
No one has to start out with a $20k rig to make money,but the equipment you buy will factor heavily into what types of work you can do.Cold water machines pretty much limit you to residential(homes,sidealks and driveways). A hot water skid opens the door to restaurants,banks,gas stations(commercial) plus the residential work.
Cleaning a driveway with a wand vs. a surface cleaner will eat into your bottom line.A 2.3gpm machine will do the same thing.The recommended starting point for residential work is 4gpm.Proper knowledge of what tip sizes to use to drop the PSI on a machine is another little hint that shouldn't be over looked either.Blasting the pizz out of someones vinyl house,deck or wood siding with 3000psi is not cleaning.It's vandalism.
There is a lot more to this than spraying water.I have chems on my rig that can cause serious physical injury,blindness and death,as well as,serious damage to property if not used correctly.
So you can call us riff raff if you want,but we may end up being the riff raff that save you from damaging someones property or hurting yourself.
I pressure wash,I don't cut grass that doesn't mean I discourage anyone from adding PWing as a service to their business.Just learn to do it right.
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Old 02-04-2008, 11:42 PM
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Well first of all it was my first job and also it is a friend of a friend and all he really wants done is the one side of the house because he just painted the other sides and they are like new.The one side has algie but not too bad and the deck is very small and no i am not sealing the deck he is. Dam the very first response to this post is a negative one and guys wonder why i get upset on here sometimes. Whats so bad about making 300.00 for this job,i dont think it will take that long to do.
Did he run out of paint for the other side? lol

You'll find that you'll get the best response if you tell the whole amount of the story the first time. Such as "he's a friend of a friend", or "i'm only cleaning one side of the house. People read what is posted, and if they don't know the full story, then they will post their opinion on the information that was given.
Imagine sitting around a bar having a beer with a bunch of guys. Do you think everyone that is sitting around the table is going to be patting you on the back, "way to go man, that's great." Or will there be guys that will say exactly what they think? This site gives everyone a wide range of opinions, some good, some bad... it's just how it is.
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Old 02-05-2008, 12:19 AM
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Ok lets clear a few things up here.

[QUOTE=squirtgun;2135002]IYou and other don't like the pressure washing professionals giving you the cold hard facts because it's not what you want to hear.....who ever told you this? I ask because i do want to know,i simply dont want to be bashed for not knowing which often happens on here.



(Cleaning a driveway with a wand vs. a surface cleaner will eat into your bottom line.A 2.3gpm machine will do the same thing.The recommended starting point for residential work is 4gpm....I have a 4000 psi 4gpm and a surface cleaner and have done many hrs learning and being educated from the pro's not guys from home depot.


So you can call us riff raff if you want,but we may end up being the riff raff that save you from damaging someones property or hurting yourself.....I did not mean power washing guys in general i meant some people on this entire site no matter what forum it is do nothing but try to poke fun or start crap and you know im right on this too. I appreciate all the help i do get and you can ask "the cleaner" on this site how much time he has spent with me on phone calls helping me make the right decisions and giving me good advice.
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Old 02-05-2008, 12:29 AM
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and now your turn

[QUOTE=1MajorTom;2135067]Did he run out of paint for the other side? lol...{went to his house and looked and gave him a quote of $300.00 for both the house and deck,the house is 2 floors but is very clean except one wall has algie on it}

You'll find that you'll get the best response if you tell the whole amount of the story the first time. Such as "he's a friend of a friend", or "i'm only cleaning one side of the house. You are right i could have said these things but if you go back and look i did say them shortly later in my 2nd post . Once again i appreciate all the help i do get on this site,i just dont like the guys that attack people just because they dont know as much as them.
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