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Old 11-06-2001, 11:36 AM
grassman50 grassman50 is offline
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To scrarper

Why would you think that just because it is a copyrighted article that it shouldnt be posted here. Thom Nickolai is my professor here at Michigan State, and believe me, he wouldnt care if his article was on lawnsite, in fact, he probably would be happy. And this article is very true, i dont know about the one you are talking about. Thanks anyways though.
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Old 11-06-2001, 11:43 AM
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GM50 ...There are laws and people must abide by them. This article is copyrighted by Grounds Maintenance and therefore is their property. Stay in school chap.

P.S. Go to the link and read the article on Grounds Maintenance's page. At the bottom is the copyright designation. I doubt as if Dylan received permission.

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Old 11-06-2001, 12:02 PM
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I fixed it to protect Lawnsite.com so we won't have any problems. I did not see where he had permission to post this, but if he has, I can put it back up in it's entirety.
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Old 11-13-2001, 12:03 AM
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k scraper, you learned something from the mulch post why are you complaining that its here? Just read it and be happy you are provided with the knowledge and quit whinning about the copyright crap.
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Old 11-13-2001, 08:11 AM
Kent Lawns Kent Lawns is offline
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Thanx for the great post. Something those of us familiar with MSU have known for some time.

BTW: The writer is not necesarily the owner of copywright material. Publishers get funny about that.
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Old 11-13-2001, 08:14 AM
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Didn't learn anything I didn't already know GM...it is not the point that it doesn't belong here, but that it copyrighted material from a magazine with which Lawnsite is not affiliated...you are pretty mouthy for someone who has only been here a month with nothing to offer... I'm thru with your juvenile comments...so go back and keep reading those books and attending class...I'm sure your professor would be happier to see you in class than I am to see you here....
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Old 11-13-2001, 08:29 AM
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great reading, just two points. #1 it states that the ph did not change during the remainder of the FALL EXPERIMENT, im thinking tested again in 3 months would show a dramatic change. also, i still cant convince customers that having ground up leaves on thier lawn and having it look messy, will benefit them in the long run. leaf cleanup is a visual thing. they like to see a clean property.
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Old 11-13-2001, 08:37 AM
Kent Lawns Kent Lawns is offline
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They've done the test for years. pH doesn't change much. pH is messed up under heavy leaf canopy anyways in most cases.

You never leave gound up leaves ON their lawn. It's always IN their lawn, in the thatch layer. Kinda like a topdressing.

If done properly, customers never notice. The only way is for them to get on their hands an knees and look down in the thatch layer like they're doing a Chinchbug inspection.

My finding is that most of the opponents of leaf mulching have limited experience with it.

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Old 11-13-2001, 08:43 AM
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I'm sooo sorry scraper. I just DONT want to ruin my reputation with lawnsite.com, cause someday i want to be just like you, a senior member on lawnsite.com and beause you are a senior member, i look up to you, cause you are sooo important, and you know everything to. Everyone at lawnsite should bow to you!!!
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Old 11-13-2001, 08:55 AM
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i know what youre saying, but i just dont believe that its not noticable. also, as a selling point, i cant tell the client when they ask how we do leaves: i grind them up, and leave them in your lawn. i think they prefer to hear: i remove the leaves from your property and dispose of them. ive never ground them up and left them, but i also dont have the equipment alot of u guys have, i only have walk behinds. id love to see a property that has ground up leaves in it though, maybe L.J. services would be nice enough to allow me to check out one of his jobs when hes done.
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