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Old 02-13-2008, 03:24 PM
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Kohler CH25S older

Simplicty Soveriegn 7100. I have what appears to be a power issue. When mower deck is engaged and going up hill the tractor boggs down.

Simplicity Sovereign Lawn and Garden Tractor
tractor Mfg.#1692943. It is a 1997 model
The deck is a 48" cut and the model # is 1691219
This tractor has been re-powered with a top of the line Kohler CH25S
The engine spec# is 68544
Disp 25?
Serial Engine#2633815377

I have it in the shop since November and stopped by last week was told that it might be a control unit. Because the engine was running on one cylinder. My question, is it worth the investment?
My concern, Considering there may be more wrong with cylinder.
$200 controller plus engine removal.
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Old 02-13-2008, 03:42 PM
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How many hours on engine.
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Old 02-13-2008, 03:50 PM
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Can't say?

Can't say? No hour meter. Came from another tractor before I ended up with the tractor. Looks heavily used.
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Old 02-13-2008, 03:53 PM
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Check your compression. see the difference between both cylinders.
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Old 02-13-2008, 08:23 PM
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Hey Joe

If I find the compression different than how much $$ for a rebuild? Assuming it needs a rebuild?

Would it be possible to do it myself? I need to decide if I it is worth the fix?
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Old 02-13-2008, 09:40 PM
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If you never did a rebuilt. itís asking a little to much just watch your torque settings. watch your ring to cylinder gaps. As far as rebuilt kits with gaskets they going to range from $200 to $250 depends where you buy. If you decide to rebuilt and need help feel free to ask.
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Old 02-14-2008, 09:52 AM
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rebuilt kits

A few more questions.
The rebuilt kits you mention, do they include cylinders/heads? Assume gaskets?
What should I expect to pay someone to do this work? Labor? Parts?

And the controller that was mentioned by my mechanic he says $200/part $600/Labor?

With all this should I just throw in the towel or is there somewhere I can get a reasonible price on a engine?
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Old 02-14-2008, 01:52 PM
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If you never did a rebuilt. it’s asking a little to much just watch your torque settings. watch your ring to cylinder gaps. As far as rebuilt kits with gaskets they going to range from $200 to $250 depends where you buy. If you decide to rebuilt and need help feel free to ask.

kohler recomends not to rebuild the comand engine and even if you did it would cost 600-800 for the parts alone. there are no kits to do this.
my first question would be did you take it to a kohler dealer? one that has a master mechanic that went to the kohler school? there are leakdown tests that will tell you exactly what is wrong with that engine. and a tester to test coils and the sam (spark advance module) the controler that you speak of.IF that is the problem those things run about 75-85 dollars list price. now the labor is another story it will take 3 hours tops to just remove the engine. if that is how they will go about it.me i just pull the drive shaft off the front then pull the bolts from the shroud of the engine the tip the shroud forward./i can then get to the coils and the wireing to the sam. i still charge the flat rate as all shops will r & r(remove and replace) i think is 5.5 hr so yes the labor is high. then again its a simplicity and everthing is high.

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Old 02-14-2008, 02:50 PM
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Anyone interested or have working engine for sale.

Is there anyone interested from Western PA to take on such a project? or where can I find an engine that will work. Horizontal shaft (rear of engine) and exhaust in front.
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Old 02-14-2008, 03:09 PM
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18hp only required not 25

18hp only required not 25
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Is there anyone interested from Western PA to take on such a project? or where can I find an engine that will work. Horizontal shaft (rear of engine) and exhaust in front.
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