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Old 02-11-2000, 01:44 PM
Lazer Lazer is offline
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Lawrence,<p>I agree with you it is important to keep your costs in line.<p>What's the rest worth?<p>Same as Kmart stock: (w/ all their customers), down 58.4% in the last 19 months.<br>
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Old 02-11-2000, 02:24 PM
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John, I like your responce. DO you just mow lawns though? I can handle all my lawns in a weeks time alone, but I need employees to be able to handle the extra work that my customers always want done during the season. How do you handle all your accounts and still get the clean-ups and extra work finished? Do you sub these jobs out?<br>Chris<br>
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Old 02-11-2000, 02:39 PM
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Taking a &quot;loss leader&quot; mowing job makes good sense if the customer also has, for example, 300 linear feet of privet hedge which will need to be trimmed 3x a year at $350 a pop, you get to do the neighbors lawns for a profitable price, you get referrals from this &quot;loss leader&quot; customer with installations, more mowing at full profit, more hedges, their neighbor owns a factory which needs grounds maintenance, etc.<p>Larrys got the right idea. Ive been following his formula long before this forum existed and Im successful today without having to drop a nickel in advertising because of it. I can create a chain of 26 present-day customers who I would not have if I didnt take that &quot;loss leader&quot; eight years ago. BTW after the first season of mowing the &quot;loss leader&quot; and you have a satisfied customer you no longer need to hold the &quot;loss leader&quot; pricing. Customers hate to change contractors, and will avoid doing so unless you major mess up a job. Once your foots in the door price is secondary.<p>Bill
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Old 02-11-2000, 02:49 PM
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Nlminc-<br>Last year I only fertilized, trimmed bushes mowed, trimmed, and blowed. I really didn't push the fall cleanups last year and don't advertise.&lt;p&gt; This year, I will offer full service, minus aeration and dethatching. Next year, the whole shabang. If I were to run into this situation, I would hire part-time help from labor ready. Great thing is if they don't do a good job, I can tell them thanks for coming out and get someone who can do the job.&lt;p&gt;John
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Old 02-11-2000, 03:07 PM
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There was an AP report out last week. Most people who make it to be a millionaire+. Had a C average in school. They just had a lot of common sense. It doesn't even take much common sense to show that while one market may work well using smaller equipment. While another market need larger faster equipment.<br>Larry, I have read that your market is made up of primarily small city yards. My market has more 1/2 acre yards. Requiring a larger deck and faster mower. I park on the side of the road to service my customers. I park my equipment in my double garage. I have plenty of customers willing to pay my price. They all are impressed by the fact that I and my high dollar equipment are very dependable. They are impressed that my high dollar equipment does an almost perfect job everytime. That I rarely if ever have a breakdown in their yard. I have never missed any work because my equipment was in the shop. Your shark attacks should at least be accurate and more focused on the market you are in and know something about.
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Old 02-11-2000, 03:26 PM
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Charles wrote<p>&gt;Larry, I have read that your market is made up of primarily small city yards.<p>And where did you read that? <p>Do you have one of those magic 8 balls at home?
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Old 02-11-2000, 03:35 PM
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It was in one of the previous threads I think about bagging and hauling it off.
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Old 02-12-2000, 09:12 AM
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Here is some food for though -<p>&quot;In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is KING&quot;. Just remember, if you feel like the king, make sure you don't close your EYE!<p>More later.<p>----------<br>Phil Grande - Soundview Landscape Supply - http://members.aol.com/slsnursery<br>Ivy League Landscaping - http://members.aol.com/scagrider
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Old 02-12-2000, 10:06 AM
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friendly jab on<p>i like the hippo idea. but is a old one eyed, toothless, and lame hippo cheaper to operate than a brand new one?
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Old 02-12-2000, 10:18 AM
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Fireball, <br> It would be as long as you don't mistake it for a goose and shoot it with a BB gun while it is grazing on large commercial properties. <br>
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