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#1
12-27-2001, 11:40 AM
 lawncare LawnSite Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Birmingham Posts: 94
Pine Straw estimate

I have 2 new prop i have to pinestraw cust wants an estimate usually ill just do it then make note of how many bales i used. first prop is 125ft l x 35 ft wide second is 200ft l x 60ft wide could someone tell me how many bales it would take. thank you++++++++++++++++++++++++
#2
12-27-2001, 12:21 PM
 kris LawnSite Bronze Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: nowhere Posts: 1,833
I can't answer the question for you but would like to make this friendly suggestion.

You mention that you have done this type of job in the past. If you were to keep good records of acurate measurements, material used and time taken you would be able to look back and get a good feel for this new job.
#3
12-27-2001, 12:58 PM
 lawncare LawnSite Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Birmingham Posts: 94
yea your right i just thought of that an hour ago. when i sat and thought about and thanks for the tip on the rock garden.
#4
12-27-2001, 05:21 PM
 longslawn LawnSite Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Zone 7 North Carolina Posts: 201
My estimate would be 310 bales, but would quote 350. 1 bale will cover 81 sq ft on a rework. You would need more on bare ground,
probally 50% more. You are going to cover 25,000 sq.ft.

Tim
#5
12-27-2001, 07:40 PM
 George777 LawnSite Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Alabama Posts: 305
This is how I measure for pine:
this is @ 3" thich
125x35=4375x.25=1093.75 divided by 16.6=65.88 or 66 bails of pine 3" thick

1"= .08
2"= .17
3"= .25
4"= .33

16.6 is the industry average fro pine @ 3" thick.
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#6
12-27-2001, 08:37 PM
 CSRA Landscaping LawnSite Bronze Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Beech Island, SC Posts: 1,232
George, I'm having a little trouble understanding the 16.6. It looks like you multiplied by three inches in your formula and then you stated that 16.6 was the avg for 3 inches. What do you mean?
#7
12-27-2001, 08:54 PM
 George777 LawnSite Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Alabama Posts: 305
CSRA Landscaping. the 16.6= square feet of one bail at 3" high, try it with a bail and see how close ya come @ 3" thick.
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Last edited by George777; 12-27-2001 at 09:00 PM.
#8
01-02-2002, 03:45 PM
 Ric LawnSite Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: S W Florida Posts: 11,101
Pine straw coverage will vary greatly depending on how tight the bale is. Maybe this why the numbers and methods differ so much. Here are my numbers 200 X 60 = 12,000 + 125 X 35 = 4,375 = 16375 sq ft total area to be mulched with pine straw. 20 sq ft of coverage per bale for new instal. 16,375/20 = 818 bales of pine straw. Retail on pine straw in my area is \$ 4.90 plus 7% tax or 5.25 per bale X 818 = \$ 4,294.50 cost of straw yes I bid everything at retail and add delivery charges also. My cost is 3.75.
Labor and profit is added on top of this and would bring my total bid to about \$8,500. 16,375 sq ft is more than one third of an acre. This is a big area to mulch.

As stated this is new property but if this is a remulch I would check the present coverage and bid accordingly. A light top dressing might get as much as 30 sq ft per bale. I am working with the number that I have in my area. you number might be entirely different. as first stated straw bales differ greatly depending on how tight and how big the bale is.
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#9
01-03-2002, 08:14 AM
 williamslawn LawnSite Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: SC Posts: 202
I would bid 360 bales @ \$6.00 per bale on new construction. \$2160

And 240 @ \$6.00 per bale on existing landscaping. \$1440

It depends on the size of bales you are getting and if there are any plants in the existing landscaping. I would bid total price not by the bale.
#10
01-12-2002, 01:55 PM
 Island Lawn LawnSite Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Golf Coast, SC Posts: 632
I estimate a total price using \$8.00 a bale.
That's for the clean, red stuff imported from Ga.

Sounds good, but I'm embarassed to say that I pay \$4.25 a bale!

If I'm estimating for 3" thick on new installs, I get just over 16 sq. ft.

Nothing personal against it, but as a mulch...I HATE PINE STRAW!
It's WAY too damn itchy AND it turns a death gray color within 2 - 4 weeks, depending on the weather!

BTW
Any of you SC guys going to the SCHI trade show & seminars?

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