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Old 08-30-2008, 06:43 PM
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Corn Gluten

Sorry if this is posted anywhere. I did a search and looked backed aways, no luck.

But, what does everyone think about using corn gluten for weed conrol? My son's organic lawn company wants to start using this.

What's an appropriate price per yard sf.



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Old 08-30-2008, 06:51 PM
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Corn has been on a roller coaster ride as far as prices go. As companies go thru stock the new price might be a lot higher (like everything else these days), it is a byproduct of corn processing and is typically less expensive but it still may go up

The peptides in CGM are excellent as a pre-M there is a ton of information at the university of Iowa who patented CGM as a pre-M, just go to their site and search on corn gluten meal. It was patented in 1992 so there is a long list of third party studies

Our company will have a liquid corn gluten meal product out in about a month, just in time for spring south of interstate 10
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Old 08-30-2008, 06:51 PM
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$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

and that is your cost... then you mark it up for the treatment... good luck...

personally, pre-ms are where synthetic chems come into play, but only with a starter lawn... a good thick lawn, I have one customer with one, will keep weeds out. I didn't touch a customers lawn with anything she had 10 weeds the whole year? Front yard, side yard was thinner and has crabgrass pretty bad but not horrible, and I knew that was going to happen... price to pay...

my own opinion of course, that is what I have found...
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Old 08-31-2008, 10:18 AM
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corn , boo hiss, boooooooo. for that amount of money you can pay to hand weed
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Old 08-31-2008, 11:16 AM
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. for that amount of money you can pay to hand weed

.....dido!!!
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Old 08-31-2008, 12:40 PM
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... there is a ton of information at the university of Iowa who patented CGM as a pre-M, just go to their site and search on corn gluten meal. It was patented in 1992 so there is a long list of third party studies...
It's Iowa State University, not the University of Iowa. Different institutions.
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Old 08-31-2008, 01:28 PM
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Thanks for all the replies,


The money won't be an issue, not even sure what the price is.

Main concern was it's effectiveness with stopping new weeds. I understand it won't kill the ones that are there now. They have organic apps and aerate and over seed once a year.

Other concern was if this type of treatment takes a few years to see benefits, it might be a waste of money, since they may not be in the house in two years. But, still want to maintain the yard. Even if it is only for cosmetics and resale.


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Old 08-31-2008, 01:49 PM
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Did some research from Iowa State U. and the web.

Sounds like unless you have the money and at least several years in the house, it is not worth the money.



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Old 09-06-2008, 12:26 PM
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It's Iowa State University, not the University of Iowa. Different institutions.
thanks Jeff I said that wrong, go here
http://www.hort.iastate.edu/gluten/


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Did some research from Iowa State U. and the web.

Sounds like unless you have the money and at least several years in the house, it is not worth the money.
rugmankc, I am not sure what you mean by that. CGM is a pretty effective tool
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Old 09-06-2008, 12:43 PM
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the research typically says that to have a proper dependable response from CGM the product has to be applied over time to build up whatever chem is in it in the soil.

And it's expensive...
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