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Old 09-19-2008, 08:44 PM
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Dude,
There are a few things you can do to fix this.
You must achieve 98% standard proctor density in your sub base before you can move to the base. If you are having trouble getting your compaction #'s I suggest you do one of 2 things. 1. wait till it dries out, you could add hydrated lime to help it out but it will be hard to mix in the soil (sounds like clay). while I am on the subject of clay - you should get the sub base tested by a testing company. I know in reality you probably won't do this at this point but you should. Reason being - if the soil has more that 30% passing a #200 sieve it is not stable enough for building a wall on period. It sounds like it is by the way you describe the pumping action. In this case you could use your jumping jack to pound in (what we call in NY) rip-rap. Just softball size chunks of rock. This will in essence change the ratio of passing and not passing the #200 to less than 30%.
2. you could just excavate out your sub base till you reach solid virgin soil and fill with proper base material. By the way, how wide is your base? it must be at least 3x as wide as the block.
Have your base tested by the testing company for standard proctor density or buy a dynamic cone penetrometer and do it yourself.

I know ppl on here are busting your chops - for good reason. If you drive around and see failed walls, well guess how some of them got that way. Contractors that did not know what they are doing. I understand you may have sold the job already. But to be fair to the industry please get the schooling you need. Even if your customer knows this is your first wall, or are not trained, their friends do not. What this means is that if a random person walks in the back yard and looks at this wall after it fails they may lose faith in segmented retaining walls. How many times have you heard pavers don't work, move, etc. It's just bad for the industry to do bad work.
Good luck and please do it right for all of us who rely on the industry as a whole to have a good rep.

If he didnt care about doing it right he wouldnt be here asking questions. Get over yourself.
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Old 09-19-2008, 09:53 PM
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We call it "cowbelly" and you aint solving the problem by digging to China. Here is what you do with no icpi jingo jango. Dig the trench as you normally would, if you get that spongey feeling I want you to dig a bit deeper (about a foot or so) and add 2" minus. Mix in with it a bag or two of portland cement and spread it on the 2" base. It will absorb the water and make your base harder. Compact with a plate compactor, (don't use the jumping jack) when you get back up to your normal sub grade I want you to lay a geo-tex over the compacted 2" minus and the remainder of the trench. Now go about your regular wall building techniques. Have a good day.
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Old 09-19-2008, 10:10 PM
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Hardscaping, I have never heard of such a thing. i am not criticizing, just never heard of it. How many times have you done it this method? How long has it been installed? Do you have pictures? I am just curious as we in Wisconsin have to battle the freeze/thaw cycle as you have to in Ontario.

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I have never done it personally but my dad has done it a few times and he lives in newfoundland with way worse winters then here, he showed me a driveway he did with this method and it was perfect not one imperfection. It was about 4 years old. He said as well as others have agreed, also apparently some engineera recomend it for driveways as it can help alot as long as installed properly.

I would say the best thing to do is ask an engineer possibly about the method as i have never done it personally but i have heard alot of good things from a few different people.
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Old 09-19-2008, 10:12 PM
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the job is done i am in the clean up stage. this thread can be closed.
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Old 09-19-2008, 10:14 PM
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the job is done i am in the clean up stage. this thread can be closed.
So you've nothing else to say! Ok management did you get that, CLOSE THE THREAD! HARDSCAPING HAS NOTHING MORE TO SAY
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Old 09-19-2008, 10:15 PM
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Hardscaping with another crisis! What else is new.
mike

Hey witht he problem you apparently have with me just stop posting in my threads once you see i have wrote it then you should just click the back button and not worry about it.

You obviously don't have a clue about much because all you do is talk ish.
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Old 09-19-2008, 10:17 PM
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I asked for help i got what i needed why do i need to go on more?
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Old 09-19-2008, 11:19 PM
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Hey witht he problem you apparently have with me just stop posting in my threads once you see i have wrote it then you should just click the back button and not worry about it.

You obviously don't have a clue about much because all you do is talk ish.
I think i'm allowed to post on any thread i care too! How old are you? I will say your input on this site is very hilarious and entertaining. I don't have a clue about this work, that is really funny. I guess being in the hard and landscaping business for 14 years with 2 bobcats, mini-x, hydro-seeder, trucks, 4 trailers, laser, saws, and all hand tools even all paid for is just talk. Son, i don't come on here with 15 pages of bull crap about a job i'm trying to get and don't have a clue about. Neither do i have to ask about a srw footer since i have over 300 walls experience. I know you would like to play in our world but you have a long way to go. Btw some of us do make a living doing this work.
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Old 09-19-2008, 11:24 PM
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I think i'm allowed to post on any thread i care too! How old are you? I will say your input on this site is very hilarious and entertaining. I don't have a clue about this work, that is really funny. I guess being in the hard and landscaping business for 14 years with 2 bobcats, mini-x, hydro-seeder, trucks, 4 trailers, laser, saws, and all hand tools even all paid for is just talk. Son, i don't come on here with 15 pages of bull crap about a job i'm trying to get and don't have a clue about. Neither do i have to ask about a srw footer since i have over 300 walls experience. I know you would like to play in our world but you have a long way to go. Btw some of us do make a living doing this work.
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Well some of us are starting out making a living in this work. you have to understand that we come here to ask for help and as$holes like you should help since you say you have all this experience. instead of talking ish and bragging about the equipment you have, just help and be on with your life. Don't get your kicks from me, i am on here to learn and i can only learn when people can show me valid points.


By the way i just used my brand new concrete saw today, does that make me a better hardscaper because i own it now and not rent it when i need it.
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Old 09-19-2008, 11:50 PM
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I guess i'm the only one that pushed your button here? I have given and will continue to give advise here. Even for you, I have read pages of replies telling you not to do the driveway and i make 2-3 replies and you jump me. Let me start fresh, i do general landscaping ( new yard installs, excavation, etc. ) i am now 1 of the largest srw cont. in my area. I never got in to pavers believe it or not because i stayed busy with other work. I decided this year to do a patio and 60' of sidewalk at my new home for learning experience. I completed it just working on weekend with out my staff. It looks good to me and i posted it earlier for critque and got some responce which helped me learn. My point is i know i am not ready to do a driveway that you was talking about. Its a matter of knowing your limitations and you are not ready for it either from reading your posts. Keep on getting experience with smaller jobs working your self up to the larger jobs.
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