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Old 10-20-2008, 07:09 PM
mainelandscaping mainelandscaping is offline
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Question Help with Paver Patio Pricing

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I got a call today from a customer, long story short, she hired a company to complete a 20W x 30L, 21 inch raised patio with steps from the house to patio 3, steps from patio to lawn 2, steps from walkway to patio 2 with a 80 foot x 4 foot wide walkway. She had to fire the contractor last Friday due to the fact that him and his workers were caught drinking onsite and using narcotics by local police and arrested... All of the material is onsite, pavers, wall, caps, bullnose, and the 40 tons of crushed need to finish the job. So far the job has been excavated the trench has been backfilled to proper height with crushed and tamped frabic is down and the first 3-5 inches are in place and tamped on patio site. I would say about 40-45 tons of crushed are already in the ground and tamped. The walkway needs to be excavated and completed also. My question is...how the heck do I give her a price??? I am just pricing labor I would guess, everything is there that my guys would need to finish the job. Thanks in advance for any help...

Ray
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Old 10-20-2008, 09:04 PM
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Do you have any pictures?

How is the area to get to?

Every job will vary in price on labor.

How many patios have you built?
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Old 10-20-2008, 09:52 PM
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I do not have any pics yet, as I was at the site at about 5 this afternoon and the light was not good. The area is open on both sides of the house about 18 feet from house to the neighbors fence. Like I said all the material is already onsite in the backyard. We have built 8 patios so far in about 1.5 years. 5 raised 3 level.
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Old 10-31-2008, 10:20 PM
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My question is...how the heck do I give her a price??? I am just pricing labor I would guess, everything is there that my guys would need to finish the job. Thanks in advance for any help...

Ray
NEVER GUESS. Are you absolutely 100% sure all the material is on site???
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Old 11-01-2008, 11:16 AM
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You should probably go through your normal bidding process...start from the beginning (materials, labor....everything). From there I would recommend you take off 25% - 35% off of your total estimate or just the WHOLESALE value of the materials onsite, and give the client that price. There is no way that you're not going to have to purchase some materials for the project. It's really hard to know what has actually been done by the other contractor....so you're going to need a little extra room to make changes.
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Old 11-01-2008, 07:22 PM
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Charge time AND materials. Are the edge restraint, spikes, sand, Poly sand there? Are you sure the other contractor order the right materials and the right amount?

You will need to check to make sure the stone IS tamped(after all these guys were caught drinking on the job).
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Old 11-02-2008, 07:19 AM
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sounds like a fun job to walk into.

go with time and materials but give them a ball park on the cost.

Unless you know they got a firm number from another contractor.
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Old 11-07-2008, 11:45 AM
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I would pass on the job. It sounds like a mess. Taking over someone else's projects most likely never turn out anything less than a nightmare.

The facts in which the other contractor was released puts zero confidence into anything they did was properly done.

My bid would include tear-out of anything the previous loser did, and the start of a new project with all of your own materials. The homeowner can get the existing material off-site or tell the other contractor to get their crap outta there.

There is no way you can provide any type of warranty unless you excavate to soil and start over, and if the customer agrees to not having a warranty, you have put yourself in a bad position if something does fail. More than likely the full story would never surface and YOU would be the one blamed for shoddy work.

There must be some other jobs you could be doing instead.
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Old 11-08-2008, 03:25 PM
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time and materials plus $500.00 for the headaches you will run into. Make sure the druggies don't expect to come back and work! and make sure they have all of "their" equipment off the property so there are no arguments. Good luck!
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Old 11-09-2008, 12:48 PM
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Make sure you have an exception that any materials will be extra. Also thoroughly examine the other contractors work to make sure it meets your standards. I would also put an exception in the contract for that, and if you have to start all over it would be billed extra. Just cover your butt. As far as pricing, I would bid it as a whole and then just subtract your material costs that you had in your price.
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