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Old 04-12-2015, 08:41 PM
PetersPatioLandscape PetersPatioLandscape is offline
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Opinions On Used or New Loader

I am looking to replace our 04 257b Cat and I am having a hard time deciding to go used or new. I know the Cat's especially the 7's aren't liked here but I have had good luck with my current machine and intent to stay with Cat.

Option 1 is a 2013 257b3 with about 800 hrs for upper $30k. Clean machine, new tracks 200hrs ago replaced under warranty, ac, 2spd, hyd quick attach. Very good looking machine but no warranty.

Option 2 is a new 257d. Ac, 2spd, advanced display, back up camera, hyd quick attach, 1500 3 year warranty. After tax right around $60,000. I have to finance for at least 1 year to get that price. 3.9% rate which is supposedly their best rate for this deal.

Thoughts on what the better route is?
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Old 04-12-2015, 09:11 PM
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Personally I like the piece of mind going new. Especially with a track skid steer. I am looking to get a 259D next month and my salesman told me Cat is offering 0% for 60 months on new skid steers!
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Old 04-12-2015, 09:14 PM
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Our dealer is doing a credit accelerator right now instead I guess. Supposedly is knocking 15% off the machine. Stupid games they play.
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Old 04-13-2015, 09:24 AM
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Night and day difference between a B3 machine and the new D series not to mention the piece of mind that comes with a full warranty.
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Old 04-13-2015, 10:34 PM
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Night and day difference between a B3 machine and the new D series not to mention the piece of mind that comes with a full warranty.
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That big of a difference from a b3 to the D series?
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Old 04-14-2015, 08:22 AM
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That big of a difference from a b3 to the D series?
Completely sealed and pressurized cab, much better visibility to the tracks, one piece window, much quieter, air ride seat, adjustable arm rests, joysticks move with the air ride seat, speed sensitive ride control, return to dig/ work tool positioning function, back up camera, security, better cooling and heating, much easier serviceability, etc. you'll see when you demo them both.
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Old 04-17-2015, 02:37 PM
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It can be hard to justify the price of a new machine when there is so much used equipment out there. Let the big companies take the hit and depreciation on the equipment first... You can get a machine with 200-500 hours for a 25% discount to new usually and I've always found that discount to be more valuable than a warranty.
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Old 04-17-2015, 02:48 PM
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The full machine warranty is only good for a year anyway. Most OEMs will have a couple years on the engine. Typically you can always add warranty to a newer used machine (and very likely save money over a new machine with the standard bumper to bumper warranty. I think on the larger, more production orientated machines it is easier to justify new. The increases in productivity from one gen to the next are easier to take advantage of on the largest machines. With new machines the size of a 259, I think it becomes more difficult to justify on the basis of productivity. Now comfort or just wanting a new machine are subjective and while important are less quantifiable on the balance sheet. It comes down to what you want to spend and who is logging most of the time in the machine.
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Old 04-17-2015, 07:39 PM
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try to find a dealer demo unit, mine was a "demo"with 12 hours on it when i got it, svl75 got it for 52k, new sucks but got 0% financing and did rent to own where they applied 90% of the monthly rental payment to the down payment of the machine.
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and by new sucks i mean the price, non tier 4 is a big benefit these days and people with used equipment are realizing it and i feel that may be a reason used equipment pre tier 4 is holding its value so well.
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