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Old 08-02-2011, 06:15 PM
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Energy in America: New Liquid Fuel Faster, More Efficient -- and Greener, Too

Way kool........ Posted by FOX no less.....

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Energy in America: New Liquid Fuel Faster, More Efficient -- and Greener, Too

By Molly Line

Published August 02, 2011

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With a little help from genetic engineering, researchers at one Massachusetts company say they've created an organism that takes sunlight, water and carbon dioxide and creates liquid fuel.

Bill Sims, CEO of Cambridge-based Joule Unlimited, says the process utilizes a bacteria, produces a chemical product and secretes it. The result? A fuel that can fill demands for diesel and ethanol.

"The product that we make is diesel. It's very high cetane to very premium diesel. It is fungible, so it's infrastructure compatible," said Sims.

The product can be used in trucks, heavy equipment and further refined into jet fuel. Simply put, the organism created secretes the fuel in a direct process, working faster than current biofuel technology that often uses algae.

"The organism lives naturally in the wild and we thought it would be an ideal platform organism that we can then use for our engineering efforts," explains Sims. "We do a process that we call genome engineering. And that is a combination of systems biology, synthetic biology and genetic engineering; and that work that we do in our biology labs when we are here allows us to create the process that converts the key elements of photosynthesis directly into molecules of interest."

Officials with the Energy Information Administration report that diesel consumption in the United States has steadily risen in recent years. In 2005, 9.4 million barrels were used. In 2009, 1.04 billion barrels were consumed. In 2010, diesel supplied 5.9% of the U.S. energy needs.

Joule is taking the first big step toward commercialization, leasing more than 1,000 acres of land in Lea County, New Mexico. They hope to prove the organism can produce fuel quickly, on a large scale, nearly anywhere.
Sims believes the technology can revolutionize part of the fuel industry, meeting transportation needs virtually anywhere around the world.

"What this approach brings is not only environmentally friendly, but it also brings localization to the fuel business for the first time. It also provides for consistency of availability or supply and cost. None of this has ever been present in the oil business in the past," said Sims. "It brings energy security. It brings job creation."

Sunlight, water and waste CO2 are widely available. Sims says the process is environmentally friendly and can even take advantage of waste CO2 from traditional power plants nearby.

"We believe it's quite green. We are taking waste water and waste CO2, so tapping into flu stacks, so, therefore, turning something people generally view as bad directly into something that fungible that burns cleaner than gasoline. The only other output from our process, besides the product itself, is pure oxygen. So there's no CO2 being produced as part of the process," said Sims.
The company could seek to locate near coal-fired plants, natural gas plants or factories where an abundance of waste CO2 is available.

Ian Bowles, the former Energy and Environment Affairs Secretary in Massachusetts, acts as managing director of RHUMB Line Energy, a consulting firm that specializes in emerging and existing energy supplies and creating partnerships in the industry. Bowles says one of the greatest challenges new suppliers face is raising capital.

"In the case of an energy product, you're talking often times of hundreds of millions of dollars of infrastructure to build the plant that produces something whether it's electricity or a fuel -- and that's been the challenge for clean energy is getting over that commercialization gap," said Bowles.
One selling point Joule can utilize may be its need for CO2. There is no shortage of supply, but companies are seeking ways to get rid of it. "That's been one of the great questions over time is what do you do with all that CO2 coming out of traditional fossil fuel plants?

People have been exploring injecting it into recovery of natural gas or petroleum wells, sequestering it underground in giant caves, burying it in the deep ocean and people have tried for a generation to figure out how to make algae efficiently and haven't been able to do that and so the idea of recycling CO2 which we're creating in our power plants into a fuel source is absolutely a vital challenge," says Bowles.


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Old 08-02-2011, 06:23 PM
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I've been following that Joule company for a while.. I'm thinking it's a scam. They get donations through high power... well I'll call them lobbyists. They actually hired Bill Clinton as one of their board members. Last I read they only have 6 patents with over 70 pending, a lot of time to get more funding. They were getting like 35 million a year.

Either way I can't see oil interests NOT buying this up and making it disappear if it isn't complete bs to start out with.

http://www.jouleunlimited.com/why-solar-fuel/overview

Oh, one downside, they need an unlimited supply of Carbon dioxide, they say they can get this from coal fired plants. So you have to pollute the world to make green gas, lol.
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Old 08-02-2011, 06:30 PM
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I've been following that Joule company for a while.. I'm thinking it's a scam. They get donations through high power... well I'll call them lobbyists. They actually hired Bill Clinton as one of their board members. Last I read they only have 6 patents with over 70 pending, a lot of time to get more funding. They were getting like 35 million a year.

Either way I can't see oil interests NOT buying this up and making it disappear if it isn't complete bs to start out with.

http://www.jouleunlimited.com/why-solar-fuel/overview

Oh, one downside, they need an unlimited supply of Carbon dioxide, they say they can get this from coal fired plants. So you have to pollute the world to make green gas, lol.
Possible of course.

On the CO2 thing, pretty sure the greenies say we are spewing way to much, so that shouldn't be a problem anywhere.
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.... Posted by FOX no less.....


Impressive. They've only been around since 07 and Fox has now discover them....

John Podesta got on the board in January... a sure sign it is a scam.

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Old 08-03-2011, 05:48 AM
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So whatever happened to the bloom box?
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Old 08-03-2011, 07:13 AM
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So whatever happened to the bloom box?
All that hype died a quick death, but a quick Google search shows that AT&T has recently struck a deal with them.
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Old 08-03-2011, 07:27 AM
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Friday, July 29, 2011

Fuel cell maker Bloom Energy Corporation adds another customer looking for a more cleaner way to power their data centers after NTT America, the United States division of Japanese telecom giant NTT, said it has installed five of their fuel cells in its facilities in San Jose, California.

Nine-year-old Bloom sells an industrial-sized fuel cell called Bloom Energy Server or Bloom box that uses oxygen and fuel to create electricity with minimal or no emissions.

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Five units installed in NTT America have a total capacity of 500 kilowatts, which is the equivalent power for about 500 houses or five large office buildings. Each Bloom fuel cell costs around $700,000 to $800,000.

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Bloom Energy is fresh off a similar deal with AT&T, its first with a telecommunications company. The Bloom box will also power data centers within 11 sites in California.

The systems will generate 7.5 MW, of power equal to around 75 bloom boxes, and be fuelled by natural gas rather than biogas. The installation will begin later this year and will be fully operational by mid-2012 in 11 facilities.

The project will generate 62 million kWh and help AT&T avoid approximately 250 million pounds (0.11 MT) of carbon dioxide emissions.

So far Bloom has done much of its business within California, because California offers fuel cell installers significant subsidies.

Fuel cells are included in their Renewable Portfolio Standard and adoption can be subsidized by California under the Self Generation Incentive Programme.
Companies with facilities in California like Google, Ebay, and Coca-Cola have taken advantage of the state subsidies to deploy Bloomís boxes. The internet giant was the companyís first customer in July 2008, and has installed fuel cell units generating 400 kW to power a building on Googleís main campus.

Coca-Cola also used bloom boxes to improve the energy efficiency of its plants, vehicle fleet, and cold drink equipments. The company installed 500 kW worth of units at its Odwalla plant in Dinuba, California, providing 30 percent of the plantís power needs while reducing its carbon footprint by 35 percent.

Bloom Energy traces its roots to the National Aeronautics and Space Administrationís Mars space program, after Dr. KR Sridhar, chief executive of Bloom Energy, and his partners thought of finding a way to reverse a process for producing oxygen.

The companyís investors include Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, representing the firmís first clean tech investment, as well as Morgan Stanley, NEA, and Northgate Capital.

In January, Bloom Energy said it has 20 MW equal to 200 bloom boxes providing electricity to current customers including Staples Inc. and Walmart and new customers California Institute of Technology, Kaiser Permanente, and Becton, Dickinson and Company.

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Old 08-06-2011, 12:51 AM
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Dude, my wife sneezes diamonds and my children poop gold, granted we never
did get the dog to piss dollars like we wanted but we're still set for life!

Although I do admit the petrol crapping bacteria story was surrounded by a far better shroud of pseudo-scientific garbage that
gave it an air of authenticity whereas my story you just know it's BS, but in the end what's the difference?

Did I mention I am with the guys who think it's a scam?

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