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Old 01-29-2009, 09:46 AM
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Have you seen how well a 5' riser bends when a rotor is working on top of it, and it's not attached to a wall or fence? Pretty funny.
Gotta love that whirly-bird look.
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Old 01-29-2009, 10:02 AM
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I like galvanized steel risers, rust and all. Lets you put that impact head up high.
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Old 01-29-2009, 10:06 AM
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How about, a few lateral lines ran in funny pipe? YEP ive seen it . what about people using ball valves coming off mainline to save money ? thats right , no clock (this just recently) and usuing ball valves to operate a zone? wt frijoles? It is just ridiculous that some people even install irrigation!! And good grief at the MULTI-STRAND GOOD GRIEF!!!!
if you have to use multistrand to save a little money, you shouldnt be doing the JOB. THATS PRobably why homeowners call other professsionals to repair those kind of foul-ups. see cutting corners is bad for the industry and cost the homeowners money but in another defense those of you who keep doing shotty work are just keeping us that dont in good standings and making us stronger.! so in that respect THANK YOU>
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Old 01-29-2009, 10:15 AM
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Why gripe at multistrand? Odds are nobody is stocking a dozen colors of single-conductor. Besides, with a single manifold next to the building foundation, wire isn't a weak point.
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Old 01-29-2009, 10:16 AM
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Up here, we get some other interesting short cuts.

No connection point for blow out, or almost as bad, a plug instead of using a sediment drain for connection.

Cutting down a 6" box because the valves aren't deep enough for the box to be level to grade.

Mounding dirt at the VB (alternate solution to above)

PEX used outside

PE used inside


As to multi-strand. It is always used up here because we plow our pipe in. You trench guys can try and claim some form of moral high ground, but be aware that different areas do things differently, and what is the "right" way varies dramatically.
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Old 01-29-2009, 10:20 AM
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Why gripe at multistrand? Odds are nobody is stocking a dozen colors of single-conductor. Besides, with a single manifold next to the building foundation, wire isn't a weak point.
Agreed. Not using multi-strand in short run scenarios is a waste of money and resources IMHO.
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Old 01-29-2009, 10:22 AM
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I like galvanized steel risers, rust and all. Lets you put that impact head up high.
Gives the landscape that cool, retro-industrial look.
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Old 01-29-2009, 10:25 AM
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The question about running solid-conductor 14-gauge wire, is what exactly are you buying? A backhoe will still destroy the connection. Unless you are on a multi-acre estate, you don't need the lower resistance of 14 gauge copper.

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Old 01-29-2009, 10:26 AM
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ooohhh.... looks like we hit a magic button with the multi strand. I would say 1%-5% of residentials have single strand here. Just the way it is done here. If done properly, there is nothing wrong with it.

I will also admit to using the regular white PVC for conduit for the multistrand going into the controller. RARELY see gray conduit.
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Old 01-29-2009, 10:28 AM
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The question about running solid-conductor 14-gauge wire, is what exactly are you buying? A backhoe will still destroy the connection. Unless you are on a multi-acre extate, you don't need the lower resistance of 14 gauge copper.
Yup, and when the backhoe hits the bundle of twenty or so of the same color and a red common thrown in for laughs, multi-strand starts to make sense.
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