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Old 02-03-2009, 07:55 PM
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Drip bites; get over it you guys. It was made for straight row crops; the beancounters convinced you all this was a cheap, efficient way of laying water down. It has not worked with a damn in my experience because the emitters are too far spaced to provide proper application in horticultural applications. You'll all keep using it; and plants will die. 'Nuff said.
In general I agree that drip stinks, but not for all the same reasons. The biggest issue is that 90% of it is not installed correctly. HO's don't know how pressure compensation, water pressure, and water volume play a part in drip. They go into their local home depot and start buying parts and slap them together haphazardly. "I can do my whole property on one zone at different elevations." Drip also causes saline build up at the point of emitters, especially because they aren't moved. I read an article about redwoods planted in landscapes are distressed in 5 to 6 years because of saline concentrates directly located below unmoved emitters.

BUT in my area drip is part of the irrigation business like it or not. In spring I get a lot of service calls from people that had their drip installed by a LCO and it is failing after being installed for a few years. Drip is planned obsolescence that requires yearly maintenance, especially because HO and some contractors by the crap parts.
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Old 02-03-2009, 07:55 PM
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So it's better to spray an area with shrubs and flowers with 2"-4" of mulch or rocks that the water has to filter through first? Or get soaked up by the mulch in areas where there are no plantings? We need to use water wisely.
Good point. Sorry ML
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Old 02-03-2009, 08:21 PM
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Good point. Sorry ML
Not really, if the LA/"designers" screwed up the layout, what are we supposed to do? You guys deal with h/os, that's your problem.
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Old 02-03-2009, 08:52 PM
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Not really, if the LA/"designers" screwed up the layout, what are we supposed to do? You guys deal with h/os, that's your problem.
I forgot, it's Mike's way or no way. "Not my problem."
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Old 02-03-2009, 09:01 PM
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The problem lies with the fact that the clients have expressed interest in using rainwater harvesting to supply the drip system. I am eager to produce a design using this method however I dont know what resources or products I have at my disposal or what special factors need to be considered when designing this type of system.

Anyone care to give me some tips?
Check you local rain water regulations

Rain water article
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Old 02-03-2009, 11:20 PM
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Drip bites; get over it you guys. It was made for straight row crops; the beancounters convinced you all this was a cheap, efficient way of laying water down. It has not worked with a damn in my experience because the emitters are too far spaced to provide proper application in horticultural applications. You'll all keep using it; and plants will die. 'Nuff said.
Silly, silly man .....

Use the right dripline for the application and install it properly.

Issue #1: Bury the line.

Issue #2: What Bob said.
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Old 02-04-2009, 12:11 AM
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This is what I would say to the client. hah.

"As an irrigator, I can't prevent your dog from chewing things up. As a dog owner, I can prevent my dog from chewing on things. So train your f-in dog!"

well, something along that.

I've seen people get rid of their dogs because they kept destroying the sprinklers.
For the most part the drip I have seen in areas with bad dogs the homeowner knows there is no hope.
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Old 02-04-2009, 01:39 AM
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You could always just plant rocks.
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Old 02-04-2009, 01:57 AM
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You could always just plant rocks.
See, you are catching on ....
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Old 02-04-2009, 07:23 AM
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Toro makes a sub surface dripline with a built in herbicide to prevent root intrusion if that might be a problem. It's connectors are alot easier to work with than netafim, thats for sure.

Not sure on the price, but the one time I used it, it was pretty nice.


Rain water reclamation is a great idea, but the setup is very expensive. Can you sell them on some drought tolerant plants? If they are truly wanting to "GO GREEN", they will remove their high water usage plants, and almost throw out the irrigation all together.

Or, have them do drip with low water usage plants. Beat these words into them, SUSTAINABLE, SUSTAINABLE, SUSTAINABLE.
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