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Old 01-04-2016, 09:41 PM
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Gas 3/4 ton's for heavy towing

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I'm putting this in the heavy equipment forum because I don't need a pile of people telling me how there 1500 tows a 7000lb trailer just fine.

I'm looking at buying a used truck. Between roughly a 98 and 05 in age for cost reasons. the trucks that I'm considering are an OBS ford with the 460 V8, a ford with the v10, a gm with the 6.0, and a chevy with the 8.1.

The primary use for this truck is going to be on the farm: Moving my tractor from one place to the other (about 15 miles, and 5000ft up and downs between the two), delivering hay, hauling cattle, ect . . .

What I'm primarily worried about is moving the tractor. I have a 30' deckover gooseneck, figure that fully loaded tractor on the trailer weights just about 14k even, maybe a bit over depending on what implements I have on.

Here's what I'm looking for input on. how will these engines hold up to this abuse?
ford 460,
ford v10
gm 6.0
gm 8.1

thanks for the input.
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Old 01-04-2016, 09:55 PM
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I have a cattle guy by me who has a chevy gasser i think the 6.0 hauls a 30ft cattle trailer daily with no issues.
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Old 01-04-2016, 09:59 PM
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being that the v10 is offered in the f750 I'd reckon it'll do fine.
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Old 01-04-2016, 10:15 PM
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I dont know much too much about the ford gas engines, being that I have a 7.3 powerjoke, but I do know a bit about the chebby stuff. Chevy engines are awesome. Guys put turbos on them - the new Gen III/LS engines, what a 6.0 is - and they make serious power. I haven't heard of the 8.1s being that awesome, nothing bad, just nothing too good. What you're going to have to worry about is your transmission. The 4L80E is a decent transmission, I've been contemplating putting one in a car over the old TH400, being that it has overdrive. Stock they are supposed to hold 800 ft/lb of torque, hence the 80 (4 speed, Longitudinally mounted, 800ft/lb of torque, electronic = 4L80E). I recommend a pretty robust trans oil cooler, obviously running with OD off. I assume that you are looking at a dually?

I don't forsee the gas engines in any of the trucks you mentioned crapping the bed to to load. You're not forcing air of nitrous in them, and as long as you keep the air cleaner fresh with fresh oil changes with quality synthetic oil, you'll be good.

Also, I know you are set on a gasser, but why not a diesel?
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Old 01-04-2016, 10:30 PM
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My 6.0 got 205k miles of abuse hauling before I sold it. And it was still going.. It wasn't near as strong as it once was. But it was still running and doing the job..

Just keep a gas station near and keep your foot out of it.
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Old 01-04-2016, 10:54 PM
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I have had a 2012 2500HD with 6.0L and 3.73's and a 2015 3500HD with a 6.0L and 4.10's. I have pulled up to a combined weight of 35K up to 8K feet. They will absolutely pull. Mileage can go as low as 5 mpg. Get the 4.10s if you pulling really heavy. Personally I really like them. You have to get used to them making their power at 4K rpm but they will get it done. They are cheaper to buy new, no DEF to worry about and contrary to what many have said, I have gotten very good resale out of them.
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Old 01-04-2016, 11:19 PM
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I've owned 6.0's and a 8.1. I pull 10k or slightly over semi regularly with my 6.0s and they do the trick. An 8.1 with Allison auto though is a power house. If heavy towing is the trucks main use.....id pick the big block.
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Old 01-04-2016, 11:42 PM
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thats good to hear about the 6.0.

We have a whole fleet of them at work (all with utility bodies), and I wouldn't describe them as particularly nutty, but i've never had a real load behind one of them. Also I'm used to driving diesels so perhaps I haven't quite put my foot into it enough.
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Old 01-04-2016, 11:53 PM
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You can't compare a gas to a diesel.. The only time I can compare mine is when I get an oil change or fill up with fuel.

I've got a 6.4 hemi in my 2500 dodge and it's no jet like the 6.4 power stroke I had before. But it'll pull 14k at 60-70 no problem.. It wouldn't keep with a diesel as far as take off or pulling hills but it gets the job done well enough.

And the next day me and the girlfriend can go to the coast and get 18-20mpg. Something I never saw in the diesels I had.
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Old 01-04-2016, 11:56 PM
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You can't compare a gas to a diesel.. The only time I can compare mine is when I get an oil change or fill up with fuel.

I've got a 6.4 hemi in my 2500 dodge and it's no jet like the 6.4 power stroke I had before. But it'll pull 14k at 60-70 no problem.. It wouldn't keep with a diesel as far as take off or pulling hills but it gets the job done well enough.

And the next day me and the girlfriend can go to the coast and get 18-20mpg. Something I never saw in the diesels I had.
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I get killer fuel economy with my 7.3...but I also have a tuner, exhaust, and some other things.
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