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Old 03-11-2002, 10:19 AM
BillG BillG is offline
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New Website

Need Some feedback on my New Website. Let me know what works and what needs to be changed. Thanks
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Old 03-11-2002, 01:51 PM
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Bill -

I'm about to give a bunch of constructive criticism. I say this up front because I don't want you think that because I have many points that I address, that I don't like your site. I do. I particularly like the stone border around the pages. The site has a clean layout. But I think there are some things that can be done to improve the visitor's experience:

The main page - it looks like you wanted the background pic to be a full background, but it isn't quite. And the pic in the foreground isn't centered. If you meant for it to not be centered, you need to move it even more (right now it looks like you tried to make it centered but didn't quite make it).

Once into the other pages, I found the links to be a bit confusing - like the landscaping button, for example. I click the button, and a new page loads, but there's nothing in the main area of the screen. I almost didn't notice that hitting that button opened up options below the landscape button. So it looks like you were trying to do something like a drop-down menu. I'd advise to either make it a real drop-down, or make a new page, so when you hit the landscaping button, those options appear on the main body of the page, not in the left border.

Same thing with references.

And the site loads really fast, which is nice. It's fast enough that you could afford to put a few pics on the pages along with the text.

That's it for now. It looks like you're off to a great start. And I realize that getting any constructive criticism right after spending days putting the thing together can be tough on the ego. It is on mine, anyway. Know that I'm only wanting to help.

Good luck!
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Old 03-11-2002, 06:44 PM
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I would recommend dumping the splash page.

I love the rest of the content. Dittoing Stonehenges comments. It looks as if there is content that is yet to be uploaded.

I would reconsider using www.the-web-host.com. I am getting packet loss on thier end of the network and the site is slow to load for me compared to others. If you look at the trace routes below the *'s represent the information that is lost as packet loss.

Microsoft(R) Windows DOS
(C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1990-2001.

C:\DOCUME~1\COMPUTER>tracert www.billslandscaping.com

Tracing route to www.billslandscaping.com [64.177.209.113]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 38 ms 98 ms 101 ms dhcp9590001.columbus.rr.com [24.95.90.1]
2 50 ms 73 ms 79 ms fas0-0.alcroh1-ubr1.columbus.rr.com [24.95.83.19
8]
3 50 ms 56 ms 51 ms srp1-0.clmboh1-rtr1.columbus.rr.com [24.95.81.22
1]
4 65 ms 87 ms 76 ms srp6-0.clmboh1-rtr3.columbus.rr.com [24.95.81.21
9]
5 73 ms 58 ms 118 ms pop1-col-P4-2.atdn.net [64.236.3.225]
6 78 ms 121 ms 77 ms bb2-col-P4-0.atdn.net [66.185.140.57]
7 119 ms 76 ms 66 ms bb2-ash-P14-3.atdn.net [66.185.152.129]
8 41 ms 120 ms 70 ms bb2-dtc-P1-2.atdn.net [66.185.152.34]
9 88 ms 52 ms 90 ms bb2-dcl-P4-0.atdn.net [204.148.103.77]
10 96 ms 83 ms 77 ms pop1-dcl-P6-0.atdn.net [204.148.97.138]
11 44 ms 74 ms 72 ms globalcenter2.atdn.net [204.148.99.190]
12 87 ms 69 ms 63 ms pos2-0-155M.cr1.WDC2.gblx.net [208.178.174.53]
13 124 ms 115 ms 110 ms pos2-0-622M.cr2.PHI1.gblx.net [206.132.113.98]
14 94 ms 77 ms 78 ms pos1-0-0-155M.ar1.PHI1.gblx.net [206.132.118.222
]
15 102 ms 49 ms 60 ms Alabanza.pos12-0-0.ar1.PHI1.gblx.net [208.49.224
.94]
16 108 ms 142 ms 124 ms 208.49.89.9
17 180 ms * 131 ms billslandscaping.com [64.177.209.113]

Trace complete.

C:\DOCUME~1\COMPUTER>tracert www.the-web-host.com

Tracing route to www.the-web-host.com [216.147.127.172]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 35 ms 59 ms 57 ms dhcp9590001.columbus.rr.com [24.95.90.1]
2 14 ms 55 ms 72 ms fas0-0.alcroh1-ubr1.columbus.rr.com [24.95.83.19
8]
3 150 ms 173 ms 59 ms srp1-0.clmboh1-rtr2.columbus.rr.com [24.95.81.22
2]
4 33 ms 39 ms 54 ms srp8-0.clmboh1-rtr4.columbus.rr.com [24.95.81.13
0]
5 11 ms 51 ms 55 ms pop2-col-P4-2.atdn.net [64.236.3.241]
6 66 ms 42 ms 72 ms bb2-col-P5-0.atdn.net [66.185.140.73]
7 90 ms 52 ms 56 ms bb2-ash-P14-3.atdn.net [66.185.152.129]
8 77 ms 63 ms 70 ms bb2-dtc-P0-2.atdn.net [64.236.2.242]
9 41 ms 60 ms 48 ms bb2-dcl-P4-0.atdn.net [204.148.103.77]
10 49 ms 52 ms 51 ms pop1-dcl-P6-1.atdn.net [204.148.99.106]
11 45 ms 67 ms 62 ms globalcenter2.atdn.net [204.148.99.190]
12 55 ms 72 ms 56 ms pos2-0-155M.cr1.WDC2.gblx.net [208.178.174.53]
13 63 ms 59 ms 107 ms pos2-0-622M.cr2.PHI1.gblx.net [206.132.113.98]
14 83 ms 66 ms 67 ms pos1-0-0-155M.ar1.PHI1.gblx.net [206.132.118.222
]
15 55 ms 71 ms 79 ms Alabanza.pos12-0-0.ar1.PHI1.gblx.net [208.49.224
.94]
16 125 ms 131 ms 142 ms 208.49.89.9
17 * 103 ms * the-web-host.com [216.147.127.172]
18 122 ms 167 ms 94 ms the-web-host.com [216.147.127.172]

Trace complete.
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Old 03-12-2002, 04:13 PM
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Bill...

Site looks great!

I like how the stone goes down the left side of the page. Graphics are awesome, it's a great theme.
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Old 03-12-2002, 07:04 PM
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HGM -

The information you provided is very interesting. I don't understand it, but it's interesting. What exactly is the data showing?

I think I get what 'packet loss' means - packets of data for the site, but I don't know how you'd be able to decipher that from the data there.

How'd you do that?
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Old 03-12-2002, 10:58 PM
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Quote:
17 180 ms * 131 ms billslandscaping.com [64.177.209.113]
Each "hop" the # 17 is a point on the internet that the data passes through on the internet. This specific site is 17 hops from me to the site. The numbers 180ms, *, 131ms(milliseconds) is the time that it takes for information to pass from hop 16 to hop 17 (in this example) in 3 different attempts. The * in this example means that the information that is sent in the 2nd attempt is not able to get to the target (packet loss.)

To run this command in windows goto start - run - type "command" (without quotes.) You should come up to something resembling a C:. Then Type tracert www.(Site).com and presto...
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Old 04-06-2002, 06:55 PM
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Do You think This Site is worth $1200.00 that it cost to build? That is how much I paid. I think it is too much what do you think?
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Old 04-06-2002, 07:14 PM
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I personally think that is too much, but it does look good.

Hank
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Old 04-06-2002, 09:27 PM
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Too late to matter now, I had mine done for much less than that.
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Old 04-06-2002, 10:41 PM
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I too believe that is a little pricey.

It does look good.

jf
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