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Old 03-02-2009, 08:32 PM
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Cat 257B vs. Bobcat T190

To who it may concern. What are the opinions on performance between these two machines?
Such as pushing capacity or power to the ground and lifting etc.
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Old 03-02-2009, 08:41 PM
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One of the contractors in my area has a 257 it does really good I was watching the operator operate it and its smooth no jumping around kinda mezmarizing
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Old 03-02-2009, 09:22 PM
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You can see a comparison at

Casece.com go to compact track loader, click on compare, go 445CT to see the T-190 specs. Go to 420CT to see the 257B2 specs.


Neither of these two machines are impressive. There have been threads on this before.
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Old 03-02-2009, 09:43 PM
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To who it may concern. What are the opinions on performance between these two machines?
Such as pushing capacity or power to the ground and lifting etc.
I wouldn't go any where near a 257, I know numerous contractors that all dumped that machine because its a gutless wonder.. There all in t190's now and are happy with them. There was something i found on you tube a few weeks back and i dont know where the hell it went maybe it was taken off but it had a bobcat t190, deere ct322, cat 257, and a takuchi i dont even remember the model number but it was compared to the rest of these machines.. It showed each of these machines pushing dirt on flat ground on seeing how far they can go before the machine stoped... I'm sure it was something to do with deere.

ct322 i believe pushed like 58 feet
tackuchi pushed 48 feet
bobcat pushed 45 feet
cat pushed i think it was only 33-35 feet
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Old 03-02-2009, 09:43 PM
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Both are less than desireable when it really comes down to it. The 257/257B is an absolute dog, however I ran a 257BII and it was a little better. I still feel the 257BII platform needed improvements when it came to the undercarriage packing the upperstructure around.
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Old 03-02-2009, 09:51 PM
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The question is a cat 257 vs. T190... ( not crap I mean case))


I have had customers demo both. The cat 257 is under powered. It's a nice machine but there is no comparison to a bobcat T190. The T190 has plenty of power for its size. The SJC ( Joysticks on the bobcat are ?) they are better but something else to go wrong.....If you can run a hand and foot controlled T190.. Hands down you have more control of your machines movement and power..
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Old 03-02-2009, 09:53 PM
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The question is a cat 257 vs. T190... ( not crap I mean case))


I have had customers demo both. The cat 257 is under powered. It's a nice machine but there is no comparison to a bobcat T190. The T190 has plenty of power for its size. The SJC ( Joysticks on the bobcat are ?) they are better but something else to go wrong.....If you can run a hand and foot controlled T190.. Hands down you have more control of your machines movement and power..
Everybody seems to just leave the ACS controls out, I think I'd much rather go that route because of the SJC troubles.. Whats the deal with ACS controls? does no one use them? Do they have the same problems as the SJC's?
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Old 03-02-2009, 09:53 PM
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my phone video has witnessed one of the demonstrations!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28lCnaq6EOI
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:03 PM
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also have a video after we have played with injection fuel pump..(more fuel now)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDqo4FJYz7o
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The question is a cat 257 vs. T190... ( not crap I mean case))


I have had customers demo both. The cat 257 is under powered. It's a nice machine but there is no comparison to a bobcat T190. The T190 has plenty of power for its size. The SJC ( Joysticks on the bobcat are ?) they are better but something else to go wrong.....If you can run a hand and foot controlled T190.. Hands down you have more control of your machines movement and power..
Selling iron you couldn't have said it any better. That's what i been telling these guys on this site.. I feel i have plenty of control and power in my t190 being able to operate it with hand and foot controls.. The t190 will bury the cat 257 in a heartbeat..
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