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Old 03-05-2009, 10:31 PM
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I'm torn. I absolutely HATE spending money on equipment unless it's absolutely necessary. But on the other hand, the most costly part of the business for me is down-time. The D30 represents $$$ out of my pocket, but the D403 has a history of ridiculous amount of downtime, stress, and cussing (and that track record isn't just from me)...
get out of my head!!! you tell me what you decide to do, ric may have me looking at a D50???or a centrifugal??? but pressure is an issue.............
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Old 03-05-2009, 10:52 PM
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And to any still following this thread, (Pete) will this "diaphragm pump saver valve" help any?

http://www.rittenhouse.ca/asp/Product.asp?PG=1656
I never had the need as I am careful and keep suction clear including urea overnight in tank before running pump the next day with no clog/blockage issues.

If you feel you clog the suction line sometimes melting urea OR continue to use a Fine Mesh screen in your Suction line the YES buy it.

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Old 03-05-2009, 10:54 PM
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Hello I think the infamous red item you are referring to is the seat in the GS40GI regulator. This is a kit we offer for the regulator with the red seat - http://www.rittenhouse.ca/asp/Product.asp?PG=654
Yep the Red "Hockey Puck" Ha Ha. They wear and I change it every year with YOUR kit Toni

Good Pressure always!
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Old 03-05-2009, 10:57 PM
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Okay, I'm starting to come to some conclusions here... just a few more questions...

If I were to go with a D30, what spare parts should I have as backups? I only use the sprayer 1 day a week, spraying out about 300g each time. Sooo, 30 weeks x 300g = 9,000 annually. (Maybe a round 10,000 gallons per season would cover incidentals...)

Here's the exploded view of the pump:
http://www.rittenhouse.ca/asp/Product.asp?PG=93

And here's the repair kit that rittenhouse sells (though I don't see the infamous red biscuit in there):

http://www.rittenhouse.ca/asp/Product.asp?PG=100

Thanks.

Thats what I keep in the truck Whoop as well as the kit Toni Discribes including the Red Biscut....I call em' Hockey Pucks.

Use anti seaze on the 2 bolts in the D-30 Regulator when you remove to change it if you go the D-30 Route.

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Old 03-05-2009, 10:58 PM
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I never had the need as I am careful and keep suction clear including urea overnight in tank before running pump the next day with no clog/blockage issues.

If you feel you clog the suction line sometimes melting urea OR continue to use a Fine Mesh screen in your Suction line the YES buy it.

Pete
Nah. That I'm aware, I've NEVER clogged. More just looking at ANYTHING out there that will help me avoid downtime. Thanks for all your help, Pete. For the 1% of the time I'm not just horsing around on LS, folks like you make it a priceless experience.
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Old 03-05-2009, 11:00 PM
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Whooped

I might not be Pete and I have never used that valve or anything like it. But IMHO common sense tells me it should work. I suspect you would get a lot of air in the lines if your filter gets blocked. But that is a lot easier to fix than replacing diaphragms.
Yes Ric and he would never need to wipe again... Ha Ha

Just Kidding.

He needs a 20 Mesh and Correct his configuration with his lines from and to Pump and he will be in Happy again with that D-403.

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Old 03-05-2009, 11:02 PM
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Here's the mesh that's in my prefilter. Anyone familiar enough with the different types to ballpark what # mesh this is?
40 Mesh.

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Old 03-05-2009, 11:04 PM
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Thanks, I appreciate the feedback.

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Here's what I'm leaning towards right now:

$12 - Move regulator return line back to tank using the existing tubing and buying bulkhead, elbow, and plug.

$120 - Rebuild D403 with all new diaphragms, valves, and o-rings.

$60 - Replace my cracked oil reservoir.

(There are other repairs, but they're needed, regardless of what I choose to do with the pump - such as a new 1/2" super-swivel and a $12 Hypro 3350-82F 80 mesh filter just before the hose reel...etc...)

Total Pump-Specific Costs: $200ish with fluids and incidentals.
With this approach, I save a couple hundred dollars up front, but am still using a pump that recommends diaphragm changes every 500 hours or 3 months, whichever comes first. At $50 for diaphragms and fluid replacement, that's $100 a year in maintenance + the sometimes unexpected downtime from an all-too-common failure in the middle of the day.
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The alternative would be:

$12 - Move regulator return line back to tank using the existing tubing and buying bulkhead, elbow, and plug.

$399 - D30

$10 - Miscellaneous adapters/fittings to fit my existing regulator and tie it all together.

Total Pump-Specific Costs: $430ish with fluids and incidentals.
With this approach, I have still addressed the sprayer's regulator-return-flaw. I will have to spend a couple hundred dollars up front, and have to deal with making it all fit together (not a big deal). In exchange for the upfront investment, I HOPEFULLY never have the damned thing fail on me in the middle of a work day again.
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I'm torn. I absolutely HATE spending money on equipment unless it's absolutely necessary. But on the other hand, the most costly part of the business for me is down-time. The D30 represents $$$ out of my pocket, but the D403 has a history of ridiculous amount of downtime, stress, and cussing (and that track record isn't just from me)...

All that in consideration, what would y'all do?
Do The Leaning Towards and SKIP the Alternative Whoop.

Pete
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Old 03-05-2009, 11:09 PM
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i would do this. I can modify the tank, rebuild the D403 for $303.02 ...cut a new bulkhead fitting in the top of the tank use a 3/4 wbh34 the line that goes from the regulator back to the filter take it to the new bulkhead fitting in the top of the tank and get rid of all that return crap and take the intake hose right to the filter cool
Yes he could go with 3/4 hose BUT he will then need a different Hose fitting that threads to the Pump Bypass. Just keep it SIMPLE and use the existing hose and send to new bulkhead.

If you take the Intake hose "Right to the Filter" how will you mount the filter to the existing mount? Keep it simple I always say

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Old 03-05-2009, 11:33 PM
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