New John Deere Skid Steers now?

[Scag48]

Originally Posted by WillieWonka1850

I didn't mean it that way, but it bugs me that everyone thinks the 430 is crap, well from experience, but that our 430 is one of the best machines we've used.
2,193 hours and still strong! I didn't mean it in a jerk way, I meant it in a....not jerk way.

And now back to our previously scheduled John Deere Skid Steer discussions...

That's my point exactly. If you've run anything other than that 430, you'd throw rocks at it. To each his own, but there are much, much better minis available.

[bobcat_ron]

Originally Posted by Mr. Rain

Funny how Cat copied Deere's undercarriage....

Not exactly, Deere, Cat and Komatsu use the Berco undercarraige, very big name in complete undercarraige systems, even Bobcat uses Berco.

http://www.bercoamerica.com/t-specialapplications.aspx

[Bleed Green]

Originally Posted by bobcat_ron

Blow up the pic, red arrow points out the towers, and here's something I can bash Deere for, too little too late, if this was the year 2007 or even 2005, maybe I would be in a Deere.

So what you are saying is that you are impressed by these new machines and would be running one if they had come out a few years back?

[stuvecorp]

Originally Posted by Construct'O

At one time Tiger i would have agreed,but not sure now? The new rollers i just got for myD6R was marked made in Italy.(Berco country) I pointed it out to the Cat tech working on my machine

I do think the Berco setup on the CTL is a good system.Wears good and way easier to clean out then others when it comes to mud(more clearence).

Personally i wish Case had went with the Berco system,then is would be in the running when or if i get another CTL.

Digdeep lots of good point.

Might want to check out where Cat is getting then undercarriage stuff there Tiger!!!!!!!

You'd look good running PowerTan, Denny.

[bobcat_ron]

Originally Posted by Bleed Green

So what you are saying is that you are impressed by these new machines and would be running one if they had come out a few years back?

I am impressed at the look, higher cab entry and Cat style door, BUT if they would have had this out in 2007 or even 2005 (when I was also looking around for another CTL) I would have jumped in a Deere.
But because they never bothered to put pilot controls in the 322 in 2007, I didn't want to even look at one, much like the Case 420CT.

As impressive as they "look", it's just too little, and too late to win me over, now it's just a matter of putting a radius path loader on the D Series.

[Skidsteerman]

Our D series intro is just finished.

WOW!!! is all I can say. Way to leap frog the compitition Deere. I'm very impressed with the new series changes.

[WillieWonka1850]

Originally Posted by Skidsteerman

Our D series intro is just finished.

WOW!!! is all I can say. Way to leap frog the compitition Deere. I'm very impressed with the new series changes.

Would you mind sharing some changes?

So when is Deere gonna put anything up on their site?
I'm dying to hear about the changes and see some more of the D Series.

[Duffster]

Originally Posted by WillieWonka1850

Would you mind sharing some changes?.

Larger cab fully pressurized
New rounded bubble door
New interior layout
Auto idle
Cooling upgraded tremendiously (ready to run mulch head, probably best cooling package on any non-dedicated mulch machine, totally different than anything else on the market)
Optional reverse fan
Hydraulic fan (runs as needed)
improved lighting
New 89hp track machine

[WillieWonka1850]

Originally Posted by Duffster

Larger cab fully pressurized
New rounded bubble door
New interior layout
Auto idle
Cooling upgraded tremendiously (ready to run mulch head, probably best cooling package on any non-dedicated mulch machine, totally different than anything else on the market)
Optional reverse fan
Hydraulic fan (runs as needed)
improved lighting
New 89hp track machine

I like the sound of the Auto Idle, that should be really nice.
Plus the upgraded cooling sounds great should we need to a run a mulching head or Brush Cutter.
Though I was looking over the cab picture and I see that the Joysticks are not mounted to the seat like the Caterpillar C series and the Bobcat M series. Its a nice feature for when your going over really bumpy areas but I can do without it. Its not a necessity.
Oh, and are joysticks standard or will it still be the Hand/Foot controls standard?

It also looks like they use the Bobcat style suspension seat, which to me is a big piece of sh!t. That suspension seat never works with me, but will they have an Air Ride seat option?

And I think DeereMan or SkidSteerMan said they will have an switchable ISO-H pattern option.

[bobcat_ron]

I just thought of a new word to describe Deere and Bobcat copying of Cat's cab's:

"CATERPILLARIZE".

Now discuss this new word amongst yourselves quietly and productively.