Register free!
Search
 
     

Click for Weather
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-11-2009, 05:47 PM
fall46 fall46 is offline
LawnSite Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 141
Late Fert App

Up in the Twin Cities first killing frost was few days ago..And now calling for snow tomorrow. I wanted to get in my fall fert of some 22-0-9 only 15-20% slow release. Be back in mid to upper 40's by mid week and upper 50's by next weekend..Is there any danger with putting down a 1lb of fert before a snow. **The ground is not frozen **

I figure this wont hurt as it will be naturally watered in as the snow melts this week proably the next day
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-11-2009, 08:27 PM
KeystoneLawn&Landscaping's Avatar
KeystoneLawn&Landscaping KeystoneLawn&Landscaping is offline
LawnSite Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Erie, PA
Posts: 774
I wouldnt say danger, but here in Erie I've learned to keep my last ap light on N. Too much N and you may promote snow mold if the conditions are right.
__________________
99 Silverado 4x4
2007 Silverado 2500HD 4x4
2005 Cargo King 7'x16' enclosed
Blizzard 860HD
7 1/2 ft Western Plow
Toro 7/24 snowblower
2 Toro CCR 2450 snowblowers
48" Allis Chalmers
48" Ferris WB
36" Exmark Viking
21" Toro
21" Poulan Pro
2- Echo PB755H
Echo & Ryobi trimmers
Echo PAS 265 & attachments
Stihl & Poulan chain saws
Stihl BP blower
Stihl FS-56RC-E Trimmer
Billy Goat 16hp HTR Loader
Pesticide License BU0426
A Positive Outlook
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-11-2009, 09:23 PM
RigglePLC's Avatar
RigglePLC RigglePLC is offline
LawnSite Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Grand Rapids MI
Posts: 9,425
Fall 46,
I would say you are correct. A little snow will water it in. We had frost, 29 degrees last night. We are still planning to apply fert and weed killer for two more weeks. We expect it to be cool then warm up to near average--days about 60 and nights about 40 in October.

But I had a customer upset that I applied Oct 10, becasue she thought it would grow more and she thought her mowing company would not come back. And that she would have to pay for an extra mowing.

Last edited by RigglePLC; 10-11-2009 at 09:26 PM. Reason: addition
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-11-2009, 11:14 PM
DA Quality Lawn & YS's Avatar
DA Quality Lawn & YS DA Quality Lawn & YS is offline
LawnSite Fanatic
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Rochester, MN
Posts: 7,949
Quote:
Originally Posted by RigglePLC View Post
Fall 46,
I would say you are correct. A little snow will water it in. We had frost, 29 degrees last night. We are still planning to apply fert and weed killer for two more weeks. We expect it to be cool then warm up to near average--days about 60 and nights about 40 in October.

But I had a customer upset that I applied Oct 10, becasue she thought it would grow more and she thought her mowing company would not come back. And that she would have to pay for an extra mowing.
Right on, go ahead and drop the fert, its only Oct 11th it isn't going to stay below freezing this time of year for any length of time.

Rig your comment about the lady's mowing company not coming back....don't think so mow/blows still have several weeks of business left to do they aren't just going to shut it down because an inch of slushy snow or a couple frosts. Get a few days in the 50's and sunny and the grass still grows.
__________________
7x14 Stealth SE Enclosed with 48" side ramp
08 Toro Z400 48" deck, 21HP Kaw with EZ Vac twin bag
09 Exmark Turf Tracer HP 36"
21" Toro SR4 Super Recycler
Stihl KM90 Kombi w/ straight shaft trimmer & tiller heads
Husqvarna 125B Blower
PG Magnum
Turfco XT5 Aerator
Turfco LS-22 Overseeder
EcoLawn 200 Applicator

I can do all things through Him who gives me strength.
Philippians 4:13
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-19-2009, 09:41 PM
fall46 fall46 is offline
LawnSite Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 141
What do you all recommend in terms of much N to apply? .50lb or 1lb per 1,000 I'm aware of too much N can lead to snow mold etc. Northern climate with following blend. Only applied pre M in spring and 1lb of 22-0-22 around the 4th

29% Aruba Red Fescue
19% Extreme Perennial Ryegrass
19% Caddieshack perennial
14% Nublue Kentucky
14% Everest Kentucky Bluegrass

To confirm 22-0- 22 to achieve 1lb of N would require 4.55lbs per 1000 correct?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-20-2009, 07:22 AM
Smallaxe Smallaxe is online now
LawnSite Fanatic
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Central Wisconsin
Posts: 9,899
The fall app for Northern blend is the most important app of the year. Snow mold is gone as soon as the weather dries out, so not an issue. The grass is done growing here, but the roots are now storing up carbs for the winter. And will continue to do so until the roots system is frozen solid.
__________________
*
Now that I know that clay's texture(platelets) has nothing to do with water infiltration, percolation, or drainage
,,, I wonder what does...
*
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-20-2009, 07:57 AM
fall46 fall46 is offline
LawnSite Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 141
Smallaxe

Completely understood, but how much do you recommend per 1000 sq ft

Last edited by fall46; 10-20-2009 at 08:03 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-20-2009, 11:21 AM
cpa4t9r's Avatar
cpa4t9r cpa4t9r is offline
LawnSite Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kernersville, NC
Posts: 124
4.55 = 1lb N for the 22-0-9

Different zone but recommendations here are 1 lb in October and 1/2 lb November for cool-season grasses. Snow mold not an issue around here but my program is ~4 lbs N per year - 1 September, 1 October, 1 February, 1 end of March and 1/4 ~ June-ish.

Don't know how much N you've already or plan to put down per annum.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-20-2009, 11:26 AM
ICT Bill ICT Bill is offline
LawnSite Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Howard County MD
Posts: 4,120
You missed your time by almost a month
Listen to the "snow mold" post, it (snow mold) will love you for applying N, especially slow release, this late.

it will tear that turf up, be ready for a heavy seeding program in the spring, which is not a great time to seed BTW especially if you have a hot dry early spring

save yourself money and time, leave it for spring
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-20-2009, 12:43 PM
mdlwn1 mdlwn1 is offline
LawnSite Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: new jersey/new york
Posts: 2,445
The slow is a complete waste for you right now. No one knows your lawns condition. I just snuk in a 1/3lb n and I am on the fence as to weather or not it was needed........and it has been way milder here.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1998 - 2012, LawnSite.comô - Moose River Media
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:57 PM.

Page generated in 0.09432 seconds with 7 queries