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Old 12-03-2009, 11:35 PM
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perfect all i see about them is the angle and it isnt any haeder to do it it just take's longer also why not follow the contor the thre on the end is bigger and they dont need to be.
green scapes your correct , i think he feels its a contest he ask for help and he has bashed at everyone who is tryingto help
thats what i was thinking...
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:35 PM
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heck neither are we lol also perfect what equipment are you completing this property with ???
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:37 PM
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green scape i think he is a new guy who thinks no one is better then him lol

perfect how many dumps a day do you/your crew collect of grass a day with that walker ? we average around 50 a day
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:37 PM
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i see your point of view and respect it, those companys only charging 30.00 per man hr are also the ones going in and out of business, they are also hurting this industry, not only are they doing fly by night work, but they are bring the price of services down, so now everyone else must lower theres just to stay afloat.. its cat chase mouse game... now where our view points may differ is i think a new company has to come in and do work for cheap until they make a name for themselves, such as myself, i charge ( give or take,depending on the customer) about 40.00 per man hr, but i also raise prices yearly...

To be quite honest, those that are charging 30/per man hour are not the ones I worry about. Its those that don't even know what they charge per man hour is who I always worry about. When its all said and done some underbid so badly the whole crew doesn't make even avg $20/hr. Those are the one that screw up the bids and skew you clients perceptions. Thats who I worry about.
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:38 PM
Perfect touch landscapes Perfect touch landscapes is offline
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Green scape you said it.
I dont give a flying squirel how much i am charging an hour. I got some customers they say Alex i need first class, some say Alex I will pay you whatever you want as long as you dont do work for anybody on this street, others say you are to expensive. this spring i gave 400 commercial bids i got 12-15 accounts. ( figure it out) Out of 400 50 called me back and asked me if i can rebid it again since they got burned with joe the blow. Accounts were in such mess i new i had to turn them down , because they would not go with tripple the payment first couple month to get it back where it needs to be.
I have learned one thing in any line of work there is 10% of customers that will drench your blood energy and excitment that you will not want to do the work for the other 90%
So I target the 90% and give a steel toe boot to the 10% Statistic 10% of people make 90% of the money , so how can I try to listen and compete with 100% of Lco's if in my opinion I want to compete with the 10%. I am fed up with rat race, i am tired with competion that thinks there is only 10 kinds of grasses. Just because you got ztr, trailer, and some magnet sticker on your truck and you bid same jobs I bid I can't be compettitive with you if you are not my competition.
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:42 PM
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To be quite honest, those that are charging 30/per man hour are not the ones I worry about. Its those that don't even know what they charge per man hour is who I always worry about. When its all said and done some underbid so badly the whole crew doesn't make even avg $20/hr. Those are the one that screw up the bids and skew you clients perceptions. Thats who I worry about.
i agree, i was just trying to make an example, every area has different client's(high,meduim,low, income) , which factors in to your bids! so yes i agree with you, we have the same overall aspect
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:42 PM
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13 acres 4.2 hours x2 men = 8.4 hours or 1.5 acres an hour with 1 walker?????
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:51 PM
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????? perfect??? Guys i personally like the guys who say they make 30 hr and that is really all they make ,
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:52 PM
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(this all goes to the size properties we are comparing friend , i never thought they was your best i am not the bashing type . if i had to guess with our ferris72" 35-40 acre location . and a 48" walker 12 locations,3/4 -1 acre 48" on smaller lawns i could go do 25-35 a day it isnt a compotition)

well if you can mow that much you definately would do more then I if you go solo, I just wonder if you do any traveling at such numbers or what quality of work we talking about.
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:52 PM
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see perfect ask for help on his post but hasnt given any information to allow anyone to acctually help i could show him how a 30 hour turned to 100 in a heartbeat if he would talk lol

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