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Old 12-07-2009, 10:05 AM
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I'd still have that water tested, it's not expensive, at least up north.
Ditto that.

I seriously doubt the soil is sandy. Probably decomposed granite. We dig with jack hammers with spade bits around here and Jim lives in a similar environment. The majority of tree issues I run into is a combination of too much water and the tree planted in a nice tidy hole dug in decomposed granite making it a perfect pot with no drainage.
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Old 12-07-2009, 10:08 AM
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tree planted in a nice tidy hole dug in decomposed granite making it a perfect pot with no drainage.
Yes .... my "soil container" I was referring to in the drip thread.
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Old 12-07-2009, 10:15 AM
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average caliper diameter for these trees at waist high?
If these trees aren't large & well established, 36 gallon / day might be enough to drown them, largely depending upon what type of soil base you have there.
Sandy, I hope.
marcos,

thanks, 4-6" and we have a clay soil, 7.5-8 ph we also hit hardpan on this lot from 1' to 2 1/2'

i planted 10 or 12 trees for them on the south side of the property a couple years ago, dug a 4' wide, 4' deep trench and we mixed other soils in. these trees are growing well.
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Old 12-07-2009, 10:22 AM
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You California guys getting hammered with weather?
the skies above are clear, the horizon is black and we will get rain today.

argos is prolly geting hammered
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Old 12-07-2009, 10:36 AM
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Ditto that.

I seriously doubt the soil is sandy. Probably decomposed granite. We dig with jack hammers with spade bits around here and Jim lives in a similar environment. The majority of tree issues I run into is a combination of too much water and the tree planted in a nice tidy hole dug in decomposed granite making it a perfect pot with no drainage.
the three counties we live and work in run the gammit from sandy soils to rock, i live in an adobe area, carl in red clay. i perk, flood irrigate and drive trucks on as soon as the surface water's gone. carl is in a clay with little perk.

as far as digging go's argos, i personally through away the pick and digging bars and use a bosch demo hammer to hand dig, i've worn 3 totally out and am on #4.

thanks for the info, i'll pass it on

stay warm

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Old 12-07-2009, 10:37 AM
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marcos,

thanks, 4-6" and we have a clay soil, 7.5-8 ph we also hit hardpan on this lot from 1' to 2 1/2'

i planted 10 or 12 trees for them on the south side of the property a couple years ago, dug a 4' wide, 4' deep trench and we mixed other soils in. these trees are growing well.
Then from the information given, it looks to me like Carl created a need & then promptly filled it.
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Old 12-07-2009, 10:59 AM
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as far as digging go's argos, i personally through away the pick and digging bars and use a bosch demo hammer to hand dig, i've worn 3 totally out and am on #4.
We still use the bar(s), but I run two of the bosch brutes with spade bits and some of the smaller bosch demo hammers for "detail" work (ie. removing overflow concrete on mowing curbs to get a head in).
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Old 12-07-2009, 11:00 AM
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Then from the information given, it looks to me like Carl created a need & then promptly filled it.
if i understand you correctly, yes he prolly did. the trees on the north side of the 3 acre lot he planted the year before i planted the south side.

carl was a masonry contractor and we have traded favors for 20 yrs. he did a couple jobs for me and i dug the trench for the trees on the south side of the property and put an electric gate together with him.

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Old 12-07-2009, 11:18 AM
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Off topic a little: Marcos and I, although in different areas of Ohio, both deal with clay soils. I cry all the time about planting in clay because I moved 10 years ago from an area with sandy loam. I can't even imagine having to dig and plant in "soil" where you have to use jackhammers.
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Old 12-07-2009, 11:22 AM
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