Better on hills--Stander or WB.

[JohnnyRocker]

Originally Posted by grassman177

yeah, i know about velkes, but you cant ride those on a serious incline, i know and i have tried before when we used that set up as our main one. that is where my opinion comes from if that helps you to understand. i have mowed all ways on hills, with walkbehinds, tried also with a velke(failed), standers and many types of ztr's.

with this experience over many years now i can very much say the safest, most ground hugging mower i have ever used is the standers we have. so we will agree to disagree, but my experience has proven this, not a suggestion or educated guess.

That's cool, I have noticed the opposite, but I think it has a lot to do with which style,size,etc...

[JohnnyRocker]

Polls are neato!

[demhustler]

on steep hills you can muscle w/b (basically assist or balance it) with the handlebars, sulky - helps as counterweight
with sulky you can go on w/b nose down the hill as on frontmunt mower, where other - can only slide : )))
when you need more weight on the front - you just step-off, you can maneuver it, no matter what traction each wheel has

[JohnnyRocker]

Originally Posted by demhustler

on steep hills you can muscle w/b (basically assist or balance it) with the handlebars, sulky - helps as counterweight
with sulky you can go on w/b nose down the hill as on frontmunt mower, where other - can only slide : )))
when you need more weight on the front - you just step-off, you can maneuver it, no matter what traction each wheel has

Then you should vote for the WB in the poll.

[grassman177]

thanks johnny. it is my opinion, but there ARE several factors like operator weight, height, experience, deck size, tire size. you get the idea. but in MY experience, well you read the post!

[S&S Outdoor Services]

We won't have our stand on for a few more months but the Toro grandstands allow you to flip up the deck so you can stand or walk behind in sticky situations. With my experience (none) I vote for the stand on.

[PTP]

Originally Posted by S&S Outdoor Services

We won't have our stand on for a few more months but the Toro grandstands allow you to flip up the deck so you can stand or walk behind in sticky situations. With my experience (none) I vote for the stand on.

I have extensive experience with the Wright Stander and limited experience with the Toro Grandstand but I would bet that stepping off of the mower when on a hill will be a detriment to the hill holding capacity. It will take the weight off of the drive tires and the machine will get front heavy. It will then tend to nose downhill and, with no weight on the drive tires, it will do so and you can pick it up at the bottom.

[greatdanerunner]

I have a 48" Great Dane and it is worthless going down or side to side. My Scag TT is just about as good my hydro wb.

[grassman177]

the wrights are very good on hill, and the other great dane and knock off are worthless. the grandstand is great as i hear from guys here as the operator platform is behind the tires, if you step off you WILL decrease traction.

[JohnnyRocker]

Grassman, what style and size stander(s) do you use?