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View Poll Results: Which one of these would you rather use on a fairly steep hill?
A stander of your choice. 16 38.10%
A walk-behind of your choice. 26 61.90%
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Old 01-05-2010, 12:24 PM
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I have extensive experience with the Wright Stander and limited experience with the Toro Grandstand but I would bet that stepping off of the mower when on a hill will be a detriment to the hill holding capacity. It will take the weight off of the drive tires and the machine will get front heavy. It will then tend to nose downhill and, with no weight on the drive tires, it will do so and you can pick it up at the bottom.
that's what determines hill climbing capacity and that's why you have handlebars; tend to keep nose up; if incline too steep - mower will pop-up wheelie - rider will flip-ower; if you walking it - you just put front back on the ground and continue;

with w/b you have control on front-to-rear distribution(and drive)-when you need it :
- step-off: front heavy (good for hills - up); slope sideways - sulky travel (flex) in vertical dimension; in horizontal acts as counterweight;
- step-on: rear heavy, good for hills -down traction; - up hill in reverse; front wheel traction (front brakes) - for deceleration and u-turns

with stander- your weight distribution pretty much limited to midmount mower

handlebars on w/b (far behind driving wheels) - gives you leverage to manoeuvre mower (basically to help balance, assist wheels with not enough traction); try do that (or to turn) stander by it's "handlebars"

you can pick-up w/b front wheels on w/b and go over numerous obstacles on two wheels (big rocks, mulchbads, treetrunts ) - try to rise front wheels and walk stander
if i wasn't done it myself - it hard to believe what even 52''(not that light) w/b can do...
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Old 01-05-2010, 12:31 PM
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What do you mean by "front brakes"? I agree with everything you said. I'm a little confused though, does your machine have front brakes?
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Old 01-05-2010, 12:49 PM
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What do you mean by "front brakes"? I agree with everything you said. I'm a little confused though, does your machine have front brakes?
dynamic braking - you stepped in - drive wheels on the front (actually on the middle: )))
step -off - (mower by itself) - drive wheels rear

we all know - on breaking (deceleration) rear wheels has very little traction - car or bike with front brakes will stop, while with rear would keep rolling ... (skidding (or not) wouldn't help - at all : )))

p.s. plus all this gives w/b ability to minimize damage to the ground - not matched by stander (or rider)
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Old 01-05-2010, 01:05 PM
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well, sulky and handlebars leverage gives ability to control mower using your weigh and hands much more than wiggling your body on the platform : )))))
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Old 01-05-2010, 01:15 PM
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What's are hill's ?


48* global warming my ass !!!
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Old 01-05-2010, 01:48 PM
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What's are hill's ?


48* global warming my as !!!
that's when you hillbillied w/b to stand on it
(and than try sell it as a hill(billy)"surfer" : ))))
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Old 01-05-2010, 01:52 PM
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48? You need to go to the beach!
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Old 01-05-2010, 02:17 PM
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we use 48 in 17 kaw fixed deck standers. we have one of the new ones with a 19hpkaw that has not seen grass yet.

we also have a 36 stander but it is not the best on hills like the 48, but is better than our wright 36 walk mower. go figure, the stander even in 36in is better than the ame companies walk behind.
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Old 01-05-2010, 02:21 PM
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I have that 36 wright wb also. It is a belt drive, so that's a factor as well. The 48 rapid height has a more narrow wheel base, thus not as good on hills as zk, imo.
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Old 01-05-2010, 02:22 PM
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Oh yeah, here's a bump for the polls. Vote.
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