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Old 01-23-2010, 02:08 PM
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the 5.4 is one sorry motor...

get a diesel.
350 lbs of torque out of 330 ci is hardly sorry ,nor is zero engine repairs other than oil changes in six years. For hauling mowers it works quite fine thank you very much!.
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Old 01-23-2010, 02:28 PM
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Well I've got my own opinion, breakdowns had nothing to do with it..

the 5.4 maybe a good motor for an F150, but not a 250 or 350.

There is a reason you dont see Chevy putting the 5.3 in the 2500s and 3500s. Ford should follow suit and I believe they are this year..
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Just run the god damn sh*t out of the machine and the hell with all the other crap, make money instead of worrying about crap that only accountants think about!
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Old 01-23-2010, 02:37 PM
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I am a chevy fan all my life and actually my next truck will be a Ford 5.4. That motor is proven like a Chevy vortec. The reason why I like the 5.4 is I am going to install a turbo which is better for towing and better MPG. Strong motor with good numbers. Don't buy the early ones which had intake problems, and bolts breaking. Also I heard about the spark plugs being to tight or loose.

go on you tube and put in 5.4 turbo or supercharged. Those motor's love forced induction like a stripper likes money.
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Old 01-23-2010, 02:52 PM
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I am a chevy fan all my life and actually my next truck will be a Ford 5.4. That motor is proven like a Chevy vortec. The reason why I like the 5.4 is I am going to install a turbo which is better for towing and better MPG. Strong motor with good numbers. Don't buy the early ones which had intake problems, and bolts breaking. Also I heard about the spark plugs being to tight or loose.

go on you tube and put in 5.4 turbo or supercharged. Those motor's love forced induction like a stripper likes money.
The 5.4 is a very sorry engine I dont care what numbers Ford claims, they have no pulling power and they get the same mpg as the V-10 and for that reason I heard Ford was going to discontinue the 5.4 in Superduty's.
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Old 01-23-2010, 03:06 PM
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Cannot say anything bad about the 5.4 but the V10 is sure getting popular around here.
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Old 01-23-2010, 03:33 PM
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if u enjoy long period of downtime, expensive repair bills,excessive frustration, please buy a 6.0 diesel. plan on spending an extra $5000 on preventative measures like egr coolers and headstuds, and still having to cross your fingers everytime the engine is started(or attempted to start).....plan on getting the truck towed on a daily basis and replacing the ficm for $1000 when it refuses to start cold.
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Old 01-23-2010, 03:37 PM
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if u enjoy long period of downtime, expensive repair bills,excessive frustration, please buy a 6.0 diesel. plan on spending an extra $5000 on preventative measures like egr coolers and headstuds, and still having to cross your fingers everytime the engine is started(or attempted to start).....plan on getting the truck towed on a daily basis and replacing the ficm for $1000 when it refuses to start cold.
And that^ is a perfect example of a pissed off early 6.0 owner..

They were decent motors, some had there issues, especially the early ones. We had an 05 where I used to work and its only problem was injectors. Had the couple replaced and it was good to go.
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Old 01-23-2010, 03:37 PM
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The 5.4 is a very sorry engine I dont care what numbers Ford claims, they have no pulling power and they get the same mpg as the V-10 and for that reason I heard Ford was going to discontinue the 5.4 in Superduty's.
V-10 fuel mileage equals 5.4, ya right.
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Old 01-23-2010, 05:21 PM
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I remember back about 18 months ago when diesel was $5 a gallon a whole lot of people crying here on Lawnsite about it. There is no way in the world I would get sucked into a diesel unless I absolutely, positively must have it.

Diesel is already $3 a gallon in spots here in NC and as high as $4 a gallon in California and $3.80 in New York.

http://www.californiagasprices.com/7...040/index.aspx

http://www.newyorkgasprices.com/Mobi...642/index.aspx

They are raising the fuel prices so slowly that hardly anyone is noticing. But I am and I'm not happy about it.
Diesel is cheaper!

As for your california gas prices, which is the bigest difference in cost of gas & diesel in the country, it is STILL cheaper to run a diesel.

I own a 7.3 L Powerstroke and my friend owns a 5.4 gas.... same truck other than engine. I get 19 mpg towing my 12' Landscape trailer and he gets 10 mpg towing his 12' landscape trailer. Loaded my trailer is heavier.

I will give example with our trucks except I will give the gas truck a 2mpg increase just to show you how off you are.

California prices now (biggest difference in cost of gas and diesel in the country)
Diesel on your link is $3.99 per gallon and REGULAR gasoline is $3.07 per gallon.

Say your landscaping truck does 100 miles a day by 5 days a week and 135 weeks in the season. Thats 13,500 miles in the season.

Diesel / Gas
19 mpg / 12mpg
13,500 miles traveled
710 gal / 1125 gal
$3.99 per gallon / $3.07 per gallon
Total cost $2,842 / Total cost $3,453

The diesel is $611 cheaper to operate.
The real senario in my area and my situation if i was driving my truck then my friends the difference would be.

Diesel / Regular Gas
19 mpg / 10 mpg
I travel 25,000 miles per year
1315 gal / 2500 gal
$2.78 per gallon / $2.59 per gallon
Total cost $3655.70 / Total cost $6475.00

If I were driving my friends Gas truck it would cost me $2,819.30 MORE per year!
If I keep the truck for 10 years thats $28,193.00 SAVED, how does that look on your bottom line?

Even if diesel went for $1.50 more per gallon, it still would NOT cost more. I wonder why all tractor trailers are diesels?
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Old 01-23-2010, 05:24 PM
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Do NOT buy a 6.0 avoid that engine like the plague!
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