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Old 01-23-2010, 10:17 PM
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if u enjoy long period of downtime, expensive repair bills,excessive frustration, please buy a 6.0 diesel. plan on spending an extra $5000 on preventative measures like egr coolers and headstuds, and still having to cross your fingers everytime the engine is started(or attempted to start).....plan on getting the truck towed on a daily basis and replacing the ficm for $1000 when it refuses to start cold.
BS BS BS BS!!!!!!!
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Old 01-23-2010, 10:21 PM
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Facts that I have seen. No opinion, just hard facts.
1)Almost every late model truck I see being towed in for repairs is 6.0 and 6.4 Fords.
2)I avoided getting a diesel for a long time because the Vortec 350 in my 2500 Chevy has some tasteful yet cheap mods to make more power. My truck had 125,000 when I decided to do some mods. Everyone and there momma said I would blow it all over the highway. 165,000 miles and 100+HP more it runs just as well as the day I got it at 73,000miles. Plus it gets 16 mpg towing.
3)After hearing everyone rave about how great diesels are I decided to get a Cummins dually since I often have large payloads. Guess what, this truck sucks ass. I get 12-13 mpg and diesel fuel is 60 cents higher per gallon. I haven't chipped it but I did do an intake and exhaust but this truck is a joke. Sometimes if it has been sitting for awhile the batteries drain down and go dead within 15-20 days. Also if I don't start it often it takes forever to start like its not getting fuel. It only has 70,000 miles.

Your best bet would be get the 5.4 and do about $1,500 in mods. It will really wake it up and help the mpg. If you can wait Ford is coming out with a new gas engine thats like 6.2 liter and way more power.
BTW I wouldn't touch a V10. If you wear a motor out or blow it up the 5.4 is way more common and cheap to find.
The first half of your story isnt close to facts! Thats for sure. A 2500hd gasser, getting better economy than a Cummins? ha!!
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Old 01-23-2010, 10:24 PM
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some people got lucky and got good 6.0s..i liked mine when in ran right..my friend greg bought a 250 within 3 days of me and his was ok..its just too hit or miss with 6.0's and 6.4's

i never wanted to drive gm, i think ford's are better built in some respects, but i do LLLLLOOOOVVVEE gm smallblock v8's .. and i love my current gmc its been great 21mpg empty 'depending on my mood' hehe..
Its not near the hit or miss, with the 06-07 6.0's. They were great ones.
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Old 01-23-2010, 10:41 PM
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I would stay away from the 6.0's they are real bad about blowing head gaskets and if you put a box or injectors in them youll have more problems than that. .
only the 03 and 04 years were really bad. 05 06 and 07 are good motors. ealry 05 is still shakey.
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Old 01-23-2010, 10:42 PM
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i like my 5.4. other than coil packs i have not had any problems. it is not the fastest most powerfull engine out there but it is very capable and will do whatever you ask out of it.......
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Old 01-23-2010, 10:48 PM
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have 2004 F250 diesel 6.0 with trailer fully loaded I average 11miles per gallon. Enclosed trailer and equip weigh 6000lbs and I load truck with debris through out the week. Change oil and filter every 2000 miles. Takes over 3 1/2 gallons of oil($35). Oil filter and two fuel filters cost around $75 total. Change one of two tran filters every 10000 miles($20).Takes a synthetic oil in the transmission, price per case at ford was $70 last time I bought some. Prices depend if I buy cheap or from ford. Drove from Sarasota to Miami once and got 22MPG highway, truck only. During our last really cold spell my diesel did not like to start in the morning. Might get a heater for next year if this keeps up. I know Ford owns Cummins. If that's the case I wonder if they are going to start selling their trucks with the Cummins engine now that Dodge says they are no longer going to offer there full size trucks.
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Old 01-23-2010, 10:50 PM
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if u enjoy long period of downtime, expensive repair bills,excessive frustration, please buy a 6.0 diesel. plan on spending an extra $5000 on preventative measures like egr coolers and headstuds, and still having to cross your fingers everytime the engine is started(or attempted to start).....plan on getting the truck towed on a daily basis and replacing the ficm for $1000 when it refuses to start cold.
obviously you dont know to much cuz those 6.0 are a really good motor esp. the 06 and 07. i know alot of people with 6 liters and all the stuff mentioned about, they have never had problems with.


on a differnet note, 5.4l isnt a bad motor in a half ton if you dont pull anything. in a 3/4 ton you couldnt give me on for free! buy a 6.0, you wont regret it no matter what tool on here that says differnet!!!!!!!
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Old 01-23-2010, 10:57 PM
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i have a 5.4 and depending on what your doing with it, it's fine. pulling mowers around a 5.4 is plenty...a lot of guys on here whack off over a diesel but the truth is unless you hauling a skid steer or dump trailer religiously, a gas will be fine...and cheaper
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Old 01-23-2010, 11:12 PM
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The first half of your story isnt close to facts! Thats for sure. A 2500hd gasser, getting better economy than a Cummins? ha!!
I don't have an 2500HD truck. Those had 6.0 and 8.1 gas. Mine is 1997 with the 350. And yes jerkoff it does do better than my Cummins.
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Old 01-23-2010, 11:15 PM
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have a buddy who is a diesel machanic at a ford dealership. he says that the 6.0 and 6.4 is a piece compared to the 7.3. he has a bunch of new trucks in the shop right now and they are all brand new. brand new as in 2009 and 2010 models. i have a buddy witht the older 5.9 cummins in his dodge 3/4 ton and he says taht it gets 18-25 depending on how he drives loaded or unloaded and, "it'll pull the gates outta hell baby." said with a country accent. that's my 2 cents. vince
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