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Old 02-21-2010, 02:27 PM
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I am not mis informed. Been over this a ton with dot. I run semis, dumps and pick ups with trailers, pretty sure i know what i am talking about and have paid tickets because of it. But good luck to you!


Ok. You might want to contact the Kansas Dept of Revenue and let them know that their website is wrong. Im sure they will be very happy to hear from you.
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Old 02-21-2010, 02:41 PM
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Just in case you dont believe me...


http://www.ksrevenue.org/pdf/cdlsec1.pdf


Again, you're misinformed...
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Old 02-21-2010, 02:53 PM
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I am not mis informed. Been over this a ton with dot. I run semis, dumps and pick ups with trailers, pretty sure i know what i am talking about and have paid tickets because of it. But good luck to you!
Sorry buddy, I think IN2MOWN is right. What he copied from YOUR states website is pretty close to Massachusetts. I would check it out.
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Old 02-21-2010, 04:39 PM
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So "technically" in the state of KS, any trailer with TWO 5,200 lb axles, 10,400 GVWR you would need a CDL to tow it with ANY truck.

That my friends is some striaght up BS right there... No wonder ALL the trailer places only stock trailers with 7K GVWR.

I wonder what the law *really* is on having the weight rating of yor trailer lowered to say 9K when you have 5,200 lb axles?

It should be COMBO that adds up to 26,000, period. If you look at that flow chart of the site, that's what it says, but the print reads differently. What a joke...
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Old 02-21-2010, 04:44 PM
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So "technically" in the state of KS, any trailer with TWO 5,200 lb axles, 10,400 GVWR you would need a CDL to tow it with ANY truck.

That my friends is some striaght up BS right there... No wonder ALL the trailer places only stock trailers with 7K GVWR.

I wonder what the law *really* is on having the weight rating of yor trailer lowered to say 9K when you have 5,200 lb axles?

It should be COMBO that adds up to 26,000, period. If you look at that flow chart of the site, that's what it says, but the print reads differently. What a joke...


How does it read differently?

One vehicle over 26000 GVWR LBs you need a CDL

One vehicle towing something else and the combined GCWR weight is over 26,000 you need a CDL.
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Old 02-21-2010, 05:34 PM
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How does it read differently?

One vehicle over 26000 GVWR LBs you need a CDL

One vehicle towing something else and the combined GCWR weight is over 26,000 you need a CDL.
That is correct.

I run an 09 PJ trailer 22ft long with 2 5200lb axles (brakes on both) but they rated the trailer for 9900lbs to get away with reflective tape and other DOT laws. Luckily my truck is only 9200 lbs so I'm not about the 26000lbs for the CDL.
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Old 02-21-2010, 05:42 PM
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i use a f350 v10 4x4 crew cab to pull my 22 ft trailer. the reason for having such a big trailer is my mowers wont fit well on a shorter trailer, the big downsidew of diesel mowers(length).

i was stupid enough to get the mowers and then figure out the current trailer we were using was too short(18ft). so we got one that was long enough and that came standard with 5200lb axles for that length of trialer. soooooo, without being able to look into it more not being near my shop and snowed in, am i over gvw for requiring a cdl? or what. i was under the impression i actually am, but not sure.
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Old 02-21-2010, 06:36 PM
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How does it read differently?

One vehicle over 26000 GVWR LBs you need a CDL

One vehicle towing something else and the combined GCWR weight is over 26,000 you need a CDL.
You must have a CDL to operate:
Any single vehicle with a gross vehicle weight
rating (GVWR) of 26,001 pounds or more.
A trailer with a GVWR of more than 10,000 pounds
if the gross combination weight rating (GCWR) is
26,001 pounds or more.


It's worded poorly, in my opinion. See the bold line in the above quote from the page. To me it reads both ways, but I guess I'm reading it incorrectly.

Then WHY would people choose to have a 10,400 GCWR trailer scaled back to 9900? There would be no point unless you were just that close to being over with your truck/trailer combo.
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Old 02-21-2010, 06:59 PM
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My understanding was any trailer 10,001 or more you needed a CDL. No matter what the combined weight is.
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Old 02-21-2010, 07:06 PM
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Just in case you dont believe me...


http://www.ksrevenue.org/pdf/cdlsec1.pdf


Again, you're misinformed...
Actually I would say we are both wrong. Never Really noticed it said trailer gvwr over 10k. I thought it read GCWR. Either way all my trailers are over that. From the looks your are only legal with 2 3500's or a single axle.

Why I say my bad on my part. THey need to make it more clear
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