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Old 03-31-2010, 12:41 AM
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first of all id tell that dude to take a flying leap



yes and no... no youre not an employee of that one person but yes you do work for them
You make no sense your either an employee or your own entity. If you want to be his part time gardener take the job. If you want to be in business walk away from the prospect.
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Old 03-31-2010, 12:46 AM
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I guess I'm the only crazy one here who would try to cater to the customer's needs(within reason), do my best job and hope that he uses me on a more permanent basis.
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Old 03-31-2010, 12:55 AM
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You make no sense your either an employee or your own entity. If you want to be his part time gardener take the job. If you want to be in business walk away from the prospect.
look you work for the customer they tell you how they want things done and you do it so i guess you could call yourself an employee of that person and that pretty much applies to any service industry job... someone that doesnt work for the customer wont be in business very long
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Old 03-31-2010, 02:15 AM
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Run Forrest run! If you take this client he will cause you nothing but stress. This PITA showed his colors for you and saved you from having to find out the hard way. I want you on trial, certain time, certain day, can you wash my car and change my kids diaper, take trash can to road, wash windows....you get the point. I would just nicely decline this nightmare!
Just the acreage comments alone are warning bells.

It also shows traits of a controlling personality.

Time to turn the other way it seems.

EDIT >>> One more thought. They probably figured out the acreage thing and know that you can handle it. You know what that means? No, not that they are after a freebie - which they probably are. It means a good chance they are lying to get a freebie. And I hate liars far more than free-loaders.
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Old 03-31-2010, 02:28 AM
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The OP never stated that the potential customer was asking for the service for free during the trial period.
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Old 03-31-2010, 02:35 AM
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The OP never stated that the potential customer was asking for the service for free during the trial period.
There are two kinds of Freebie folks.

Those who don't want to pay.

And those who want to be free of a commitment.

One important clue in the OP is that the person questions the ability to handle the small lawn, when references have huge lawns by comparison.

Sounds odd the the person does not want to commit.

But in context, yeah, it seems worth assuming that the person is willing to pay unless they say otherwise.
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Old 03-31-2010, 04:05 AM
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Never sign a contract with a nut nor marry a crazy woman (unless she is very pretty).
I was married to smoking hot nut job once, not worth it.

Customer might be PITA or just looking for a freebies or they could have been burned by a hack job in the past. He sounds like he A PITA but the one month trail might give you the chance to feel him out as well. I would take him on only if his time frame fits into your route and the one month trial would not be free. I would mow for the month then at the end of the month hand him the bill and ask him to sign a service agreement if you want to continue working for him that is.

If he refuses to pay just explain that if he refuses to pay that you will place a lien on his property. Send him monthly statements of past due and in the off season file the lien. Rules and processes for doing this varies state to state but you will get your money if he ever goes to sell his home.
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Old 03-31-2010, 04:07 AM
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Now, to play the devil's advocate, lets assume...

Could it be, is it possible?

That the customer's lawn isn't 1/2 an acre, but a full acre?
The difference being the customer realizes this guy is new...
Granted I had assumed that a senior member of LS with 270-odd posts to their name wasn't on their first lawn anymore.

Could it be, is it possible?

That the customer did not get satisfactory answers out of those 7 references?
If so that's seriously odd, especially considering WE pick those.

That having been said I'd probably still politely decline, then again I don't
go up to new customers contract in hand...
Not even after 8 years, I just don't do that.

So one does wonder, that is, after what Md said, this came to mind.
And...

I'd probably still politely decline
But it does make things a ways tougher.

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Old 03-31-2010, 05:11 AM
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Could always refer him to the competition. LOL
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Old 03-31-2010, 05:40 AM
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Since he asked you for references...maybe you should ask him for his SS# so you can do a credit check on him, so "YOU" can be sure "HE" is creditworthy.

I've been in this business long enough to know when to say no and just away.

Forget about the money for one second. Mentally this kind of person will drain you. Will he be calling about every little petty thing...2 blades of grass on the driveway that didn't get blown off. If it rains for 2 days in a row, he will still expect you to be there on Friday....ect, etc, etc.

Only you know what kind of person this will be in the long run if you decide to go along with the "Trial period". Personally, knowing what I know now in this business, I would politely decline his offer and walk away.

Good luck
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