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Old 04-24-2010, 12:35 AM
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Well it's either Kelvins, cellcius/centagrade, or farenhight.


And AR stands for app rate or maybe absorbtion rate, Q is probaby flow rate per acre; as in gpm. Uhh E I would guess s probably effiency Most likely of the pump... AE: app effienecy I would assume!
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Old 04-24-2010, 06:00 AM
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Since I am putting all my thoughts here, someone might actually think of my posts as vaguely beneficial. So might as well add this.

The problem with deep watering, is that you ALWAYS have to deep water! Create deep roots, and you will always have to go for that deep roots. Keep it simple STUPID.

And deep roots does not equate to less watering as shallow roots. Pure nonsense.

No need for shout-outs from the peanut gallery please.
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Old 04-24-2010, 06:18 AM
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Since I am putting all my thoughts here, someone might actually think of my posts as vaguely beneficial. So might as well add this.

The problem with deep watering, is that you ALWAYS have to deep water! Create deep roots, and you will always have to go for that deep roots. Keep it simple STUPID.

And deep roots does not equate to less watering as shallow roots. Pure nonsense.

No need for shout-outs from the peanut gallery please.
90% of my customers dont have the correct soil structure to actualy hold water. So without amending the soil, deep roots is a pipe dream at best.
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Old 04-24-2010, 06:36 AM
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Well it's either Kelvins, cellcius/centagrade, or farenhight.
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And AR stands for app rate or maybe absorbtion rate, Q is probaby flow rate per acre; as in gpm. Uhh E I would guess s probably effiency Most likely of the pump... AE: app effienecy I would assume!
If you keep guessing, you will never get it. And your first guess for AR was correct.
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Old 04-24-2010, 06:42 AM
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Since I am putting all my thoughts here, someone might actually think of my posts as vaguely beneficial. So might as well add this.

The problem with deep watering, is that you ALWAYS have to deep water! Create deep roots, and you will always have to go for that deep roots. Keep it simple STUPID.

And deep roots does not equate to less watering as shallow roots. Pure nonsense.

No need for shout-outs from the peanut gallery please.
Really? Your statements are so ridiculous, but yet no one can comment?

There is NO problem with deep watering if your roots have the potential to get to the depth of watering. I recommend encouraging rooting depths to 12" in clay .... 12 - 18" in sandy soils. If this means watering at differential depths as the root system develops so be it.

Not only does deeper roots equate to less watering, but also to more healthy turf. I don't know where you get your information, but it is so far from being true it is not even funny.
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Old 04-24-2010, 06:44 AM
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90% of my customers dont have the correct soil structure to actualy hold water. So without amending the soil, deep roots is a pipe dream at best.
Hog wash. I've seen turf roots exceeding 4 feet in a sand.
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Old 04-24-2010, 06:48 AM
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So if you lived on an island in the middle of a lake or river and the island was like a giant chunk of clay, and the water table was only a few feet down, would that hold water well? Like are we te 10 %?
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Old 04-24-2010, 06:58 AM
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So if you lived on an island in the middle of a lake or river and the island was like a giant chunk of clay, and the water table was only a few feet down, would that hold water well? Like are we te 10 %?
That would depend on the homogeneity of the clay. It is possible the capillary fringe could extend 12" or more, especially in a homogeneous clay. Clays also have a much high WHC than sands.
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Old 04-24-2010, 07:06 AM
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Hog wash. I've seen turf roots exceeding 4 feet in a sand.
Turf , or fescue , aka that weedy shat some would like to call grass.
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Old 04-24-2010, 07:24 AM
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Turf , or fescue , aka that weedy shat some would like to call grass.
How about KBG?

17.7 inches (max depth measured): http://agron.scijournals.org/cgi/con...tract/71/3/490

5 - 7 feet: http://www.soilandhealth.org/01aglib...10139ch11.html

Note, that second reference has more than just KBG, and details just how deep the roots of quite a few grass types can get .... all of which exceed 12".
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