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Old 07-14-2002, 02:51 PM
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What causes a tree to die from the top down?

What is the cause of a tree like a bradford pear or an oak, maple, etc. to begin a decline, dying from the top down? Is it the drought, or improper installation? Bugs? Disease? Thanks ...
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Old 07-14-2002, 04:03 PM
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Really hard to tell without some pics. Did it keep its leaves???

Was there any recent site work done?? ie Change of grade??

Did the leaves look eaten or distorted???

Was there any rot around the trunk????

Are other trees in the area dying???

How old is the tree??? Type??

Has is just been fertilized???? Just a few ?'s which first come to mind.
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Old 07-14-2002, 05:36 PM
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I'll answer what ?'s I can ...

Did it keep its leaves??? It's not any specific tree ... I've seen several in the area do this; oaks (shumard, I think), maple (Silver leaf, I think), and bradfrods especially. And no, they don't keep the leaves. It looks like a total die-out starting from the top and moving down. Wood is dry and brittle and it's bare.

Was there any recent site work done?? No.
Change of grade?? No.

Did the leaves look eaten or distorted??? No. Just gone.

Was there any rot around the trunk???? Didn't notice any.

Are other trees in the area dying??? Sure, there were multiple trees in one area dying.

How old is the tree??? This is the one common factor that comes to mind. They did seem to be relatively young trees, definitely didn't have 5 years on them yet, after the nursery. Think it may have been transplant shock? Lack of water?

Type?? Like I said, Oak, Maple, bradford, etc.

Has is just been fertilized???? No.
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Old 07-14-2002, 07:27 PM
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What's the weather been like? Hot & dry? Have the trees been watered? What type of soil are they planted in? Was there a drainage problem? Did you remove the tree and look at the roots? What was the condition of the roots? Was the burlap and string left on the tree when it was planted? Did this string strangle the tree? Did the roots grow out of the original hole? Did the roots strangle the tree? Are there any roots (root rot)?

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Old 07-14-2002, 09:36 PM
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If I had one guess I'd say over watered, or the holes they are in are too wet.
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Old 07-14-2002, 09:56 PM
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yes, over watered, that is the correct answer.
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Old 07-14-2002, 11:52 PM
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If they've been overwatered, I'll eat my hat. Some of them were in sandy soil, so no drainage problems there. No burlap or string on them, either. I'm wondering if it has to do with improper installation, since they were relatively young trees.
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Old 07-15-2002, 12:03 AM
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Root damage. Can certainly come from improper installation and may take years to show itself as is the case here.
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Old 07-15-2002, 12:04 AM
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If they've been overwatered, I'll eat my hat. Some of them were in sandy soil, so no drainage problems there. No burlap or string on them, either. I'm wondering if it has to do with improper installation, since they were relatively young trees.
Sandy soil is very well drained and does not hold moisture well. Were the trees watered?

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Old 07-15-2002, 12:07 AM
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How big of root balls would you say each tree has? Keep in mind 1" diameter = 1' of root ball diameter give or take about 4 inches. If the trees are of good size possibly inspection of the roots may be in order. This can be done with an air spade. The thing costs about $1,400.00 and requires a tow behind compressor to run. Can't rent em, gotta buy.
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