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Old 07-23-2010, 11:01 AM
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Residential Z turn

I'm looking to start a lawn maintence business in the spring. Most of the lawns I would be servicing are between .33 and .5 acres and that is with the house. So my question is for the first season could I get away with using a heavy duty residentail Z turn for the first season. Planning on doing only 8-12 lawns first season.
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Old 07-23-2010, 11:39 AM
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Yes, you could do that.

Things to think about:
- Are there any gates that might restrict access of the zturn?
- Will the purchase of the zturn and only having 8-12 customers cause you to operate at a loss for the year, if so, do you have income to live on
- Z-turn usually means you need a trailer

Make sure to go to several dealers and demo the equipment and find which mower you like best.
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Old 07-23-2010, 11:41 AM
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Now that I re-read your post, I wanted to make sure.. Are you asking if you could get away with buying a residential quality machine like at Home Depot?

If so, I'll tell you, yes you can get away with it, but are you in this for the long haul? If so, you might tear up that little Z before you're ready to purchase a new one. I think most people will tell you to buy a used, commercial grade. You'll get more life out of it and you might be happier with the results.
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Old 07-23-2010, 08:48 PM
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:25 PM
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There's no need to have mower with a 52'' deck if the property is just half an acre. You'd prob be better off buying a used walk behind no bigger than 48'' bc of the gate thing.
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:38 PM
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Ok i made the same mistake your about to make. A couple of years ago (when i was 16) i started my own lawn care business and i bought a residental zero turn. It was an exmark quest. I sold it within a year and upgraded to a commercial mower. My point is if you plan on mowing about 10 lawns you might as well get a commercial mower because in a year or two your going to want to play with the big dogs and your going loose your ass on the fist mower you bought. (i learned this the hard way) no residential mower will ever compare to the power, speed, and durability of a commercial unit.
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Old 07-23-2010, 10:02 PM
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A commercial walk behind will absolutely smoke a residential zero turn in terms of productivity.
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Old 07-23-2010, 11:00 PM
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Some resi Z's will hold up to light commercial use, the Toro Titan series is one of them.

Stay away from anything from a box store, especially the Cub RZT's and the box store Deeres. Cheap, low end crap.
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Old 07-24-2010, 12:52 AM
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As others have stated buying a used commercial Z-turn or walk-behind is overall the best way to go but it does have a major drawback.

Since you have no control of what used mowers are for sale at any given time it could take weeks or even months for the right mower for you to come up for sale and someone else may buy it first. The mower may be too new, too old, wrong size, (wrong color- women only LOL) priced too high, etc.


For the size yards you plan on doing it needs to be small. A 32" walk-behind or Z-turn. Husqvarna makes a 30" Z-turn that should fit through any gate. Link is below.

If you do buy a new residential mower use it for at least 3 seasons or until it starts having problems & nickle and diming you causing downtime.

Selling it in very good to excellent condition after just one season of use is not too bright as the biggest drop in depreciation just like cars, trucks, motorcycles is in the first year. By waiting till at least 3 seasons of use before selling it you will get your money's worth & most of the useful life out of it before selling. Future mechanical problems are then the next owner's headache, not yours.

Good luck in business and your decision.


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Old 07-24-2010, 01:33 AM
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As others have stated buying a used commercial Z-turn or walk-behind is overall the best way to go but it does have a major drawback.

Since you have no control of what used mowers are for sale at any given time it could take weeks or even months for the right mower for you to come up for sale and someone else may buy it first. The mower may be too new, too old, wrong size, (wrong color- women only LOL) priced too high, etc.


For the size yards you plan on doing it needs to be small. A 32" walk-behind or Z-turn. Husqvarna makes a 30" Z-turn that should fit through any gate. Link is below.

If you do buy a new residential mower use it for at least 3 seasons or until it starts having problems & nickle and diming you causing downtime.

Selling it in very good to excellent condition after just one season of use is not too bright as the biggest drop in depreciation just like cars, trucks, motorcycles is in the first year. By waiting till at least 3 seasons of use before selling it you will get your money's worth & most of the useful life out of it before selling. Future mechanical problems are then the next owner's headache, not yours.

Good luck in business and your decision.


http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...9&blockType=G9
That Husqvarna RZ3016 that you're linking is a homeowner unit also. I don't recommend it for commercial use.
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