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Old 08-20-2010, 06:35 PM
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This idiot used non engineered native lumber to frame it.
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Old 08-20-2010, 09:17 PM
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I used to think my 2600 square foot home was comfortable. I would take a 5000.
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Old 08-20-2010, 10:21 PM
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This idiot used non engineered native lumber to frame it.
And to think, homes have been built with 2x4's and 2x8's for a few centuries.

It's not the lumber, it's how far it's load bearing capability has been (over) pushed.
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Old 08-20-2010, 11:37 PM
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I used to think my 2600 square foot home was comfortable. I would take a 5000.
Yeah but you have 8 kiddos, some dogs, probably a few cows, and a partridge in a pear tree. My 2100' is great for the two of us. I'd like it laid out a little differently, bigger kitchen.
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Old 08-20-2010, 11:58 PM
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Yeah but you have 8 kiddos, some dogs, probably a few cows, and a partridge in a pear tree. My 2100' is great for the two of us. I'd like it laid out a little differently, bigger kitchen.
Two of you!!?? I've seen how those dogs lay around the house. They take up half the place!
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Old 08-21-2010, 12:56 AM
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Best yr in 5 yrs here. Unemployment is 5.3 % here.
How much did the drought help out? I'm guessing the sprinkler service biz is still driven by weather more than unemployment numbers.
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Old 08-21-2010, 04:07 AM
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Weather, yes. But when money is tight many homeowners will do without sprinklers or DIY it. However, the ones that have been insulated by the economy still call for service.
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Old 08-21-2010, 06:19 AM
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How much did the drought help out? I'm guessing the sprinkler service biz is still driven by weather more than unemployment numbers.
Definatly the drought helped.But also doing a lot of construction preps , pool install preps ect.
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Old 08-21-2010, 06:20 AM
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And to think, homes have been built with 2x4's and 2x8's for a few centuries.

It's not the lumber, it's how far it's load bearing capability has been (over) pushed.
Native lumber cannot be spaced the same as milled s-p-f.
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Old 08-21-2010, 12:37 PM
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When you mention engineered lumber, people think of I-joists and glu-lam beams.

And yes, there are different span tables for native or rough-sawn versus dimension lumber for live loads.

You *can* build with native or rough sawn lumber... just have to adhere to different (shorter) spans.
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