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Old 10-14-2010, 07:20 PM
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A major disadvantage for me is the issue that arises when a truck breaks down. With a truck/trailer setup, I can and have simply swapped out the truck and kept on going. I have never had a trailer that wouldn't pull yet but I suppose that buying a new one on the spur of a moment would work if nothing else would.

With a box truck, what are you going to do? Are you going to put everything on hold while you get a new water pump installed? I think that you would still need some sort of a back up system - either another box truck or a truck/trailer combo that could be put into service with short notice. Other than that, I am all for it.
Plain box trucks can be rented (no U-Haul, Rider). If you want signage have magnetic signs made up to use for that event.
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Old 10-14-2010, 07:37 PM
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Yardguy, you have a very different business mentality than the rest of us. I think everyone understands what I mean when I say that.
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won't arguee there........

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A cube van has a much smaller parking footprint in length then a pick-up towing a trailer. The only restriction I have is height should a customer have trees next to their driveway or street with low hanging branches. But- I can pull into a lot of short driveways a truck and trailer couldn't.

My cube van is strictly a work vehicle, I have a separate car for personal use. Two vehicles- one driver so insurance is low, only about a 1/3 more then just my car on the policy.

As far as any jobs that would require me to haul away debris I schedule them before or after any mowing or leaf mulching jobs. Never in between. For example last week I had job to raise the crown on a very tall and huge pine tree by 15' next to a house. It had branches up to 20 feet long starting at ground level. The only equipment I put in the van were a chain saw, pole saw, wood saw horse, wheelbarrow, pruning shears, handheld blower and a push-mower with bag for debris pick-up. No need to load up anything unnecessary such as a rider, trimmers, backpack blowers ect, they can stay in the garage at home. I cut down the branches, dragged them near the curb, cut them in 5' lengths, loaded the cut up branches in the van, went back with the push-mower w/bag to collect the debris, put that in one bag, put the mower and the rest of my stuff on the end and went home for lunch. Unloaded my equipment and the branches for cutting up smaller later, (I'll use them for my fireplace when seasoned) loaded up my mowers etc and did 2 leaf mulching jobs that afternoon and called it a day.

Another advange to having a cube van over a truck towing a open trailer is I have NEVER been pulled over by a cop, but I've seen plenty of open trailers pulled over in my travels. The reason is a cop can't see inside a van, but can easily see any violations with a open trailer such as being overloaded or equipment improperly secured.

I have nothing against using trailers enclosed or open, I just prefer using a cube van.
well for starters i never pull into a clients driveway. always on the street infront of the clients property.

i would think to save as much gas possbile you would run as tight a route as possible. i wouldn't want to go out and do all mowing for the day then go back to the shop to get a different truck or trailer and go do the debris jobs, especially if the debris job fell in the middle of my mowing route for the day and the debris being collected would fit in the back of the pick up truck.

i pull an enclosed trailer and i've been pulled over by the police. checking my weight because i didn't have DOT numbers.
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Old 10-14-2010, 07:57 PM
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won't arguee there........



well for starters i never pull into a clients driveway. always on the street infront of the clients property.

i would think to save as much gas possible you would run as tight a route as possible. i wouldn't want to go out and do all mowing for the day then go back to the shop to get a different truck or trailer and go do the debris jobs, especially if the debris job fell in the middle of my mowing route for the day and the debris being collected would fit in the back of the pick up truck.

i pull an enclosed trailer and i've been pulled over by the police. checking my weight because i didn't have DOT numbers.
Most cases I do park in the street but if there is no place to park and it's ok with the customer I will park in their driveway. I don't do many debris jobs but if you are only towing a trailer with all your equipment on it a pick-up truck bed without sides really does not hold all that much debris anyway. I've been able to put almost as much in the end of my box cube van if needed.
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Old 10-14-2010, 08:04 PM
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Bruno, I'm looking at used ones. They seem to be cheaper than pickups, and the trailer is built in saving the cost of an enclosed.

I can't park my trailer at home, so that's no different.

I'm not trying to be rude, just breaking down what would actually be a disadvantage. Only one bothering me is the ability to haul clippings.
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Why couldn't you haul clippings? If your trailer doesn't dump what's the difference. Pull out most of the grass clippings with a rake and use your blower for the rest.
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Old 10-14-2010, 08:53 PM
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Most cases I do park in the street but if there is no place to park and it's ok with the customer I will park in their driveway. I don't do many debris jobs but if you are only towing a trailer with all your equipment on it a pick-up truck bed without sides really does not hold all that much debris anyway. I've been able to put almost as much in the end of my box cube van if needed.
i can get a good amount of stuff in my pick up bed when needed.

i try to schedule debris jobs all on the same day so i can just take my open trailer with me but if a job comes up that would fall in the middle of a mowing route one day and it's a small enough job i can get the stuff in my pick up bed i have no problem doing it.

you can get a lot of shrub clippings in the bed of a pick up........
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Old 10-14-2010, 10:19 PM
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The more I think about it I usually don't get more than what I can fit into a 100 gallon garbage can. Most of the bagged lawns get dumped onsite. Fill the can and roll it into the van.
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Old 10-14-2010, 10:26 PM
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I like having the dump bed on my Landscaper very handy I have already done 2 tree removal jobs with it and came in handy and save time and back
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Old 10-15-2010, 06:04 PM
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What about a box truck that gets in an accident ? That is my big turn offs on the Isuzu truck. If you look at Isuzu's web site for other places they have air bags and side impact air bags , here they have nothing. Ford now has everything as standard equipment and Chevrolet is optional. I was looking at the Superlawn truck but came back to the enclosed trailer as we do alot of snow .
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Old 10-15-2010, 08:24 PM
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I have a ford lcf truck with a side dump for debris & a vanscape body on the back. I can put 1 60in toro, 1 48in walker, 1 42in walker,a honda push mower, 3 blowers, 4 trimmers, 1 backpack sprayer & water cooler all in the back. Wouldn't go back to pulling a trailer at all.
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What about a box truck that gets in an accident ? That is my big turn offs on the Isuzu truck. If you look at Isuzu's web site for other places they have air bags and side impact air bags , here they have nothing. Ford now has everything as standard equipment and Chevrolet is optional. I was looking at the Superlawn truck but came back to the enclosed trailer as we do alot of snow .
Not sure what web site your looking at My Isuzu has air bags and side curtain air bags 2010
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