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Old 10-20-2010, 01:49 AM
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As usual a gutless answer.
As usual, a personal insult .... and round and round we go.
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Old 10-20-2010, 01:51 AM
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You are the one avoiding his valve location theories and for very obvious reasons.
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Old 10-20-2010, 02:00 AM
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You are the one avoiding his valve location theories and for very obvious reasons.
WTF are you talking about? What valve location "theories" would those be exactly? Provide a quote please.

Furthermore, I already pointed out your flawed "theory" about putting valves in the lowest part of the site ... you know ... given the laws of physics and all.
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Old 10-20-2010, 02:04 AM
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If locating a valve at the bottom is bad physics then locating a valve at the top is what? In the center is what? below the initial lateral line is what? Looping the valve off the mainline through two ells is what? Give us some theories oh great criticizer......You critiqued one so critique them all.
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Old 10-20-2010, 02:17 AM
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If locating a valve at the bottom is bad physics then locating a valve at the top is what? In the center is what? below the initial lateral line is what? Looping the valve off the mainline through two ells is what? Give us some theories oh great criticizer......You critiqued one so critique them all.
Apparently you didn't read the unreferenced cut and paste you lifted off of Jess, but whatever Pete. BTW .... where is that quote of mine?

To sum up .... a few of your inaccurate statements concerning water hammer .......

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All valves slam shut in the last nano second. Thinking a slow closing valve will be an answer to water hammers is a no go in my book.
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How is a 4 second ramping going to make any more difference than a 10 second ramping? Like I said they all slam shut in the last nano second. It isn't like a slow car crash.
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So suggesting a slow closing valve makes for a kinder gentler water hammer is poppycock. Water hammers are design/installation issues.
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Put the valve at the bottom of the zone and i assure you there will be no noticeable hammer. Don't even have to think or worry about it. Fast valve. Slow valve. Doesn't matter.
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Old 10-20-2010, 08:42 AM
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Ahhhhh...... the benefits of the Ignore Button.
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Old 10-20-2010, 10:10 AM
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Kiril is ignoring the last 20% as a separate event and acting like a valve closing is similar to an airplane landing. The first 80% isn't what causes the problems it's the last 20% which occurs in a millisecond. Once again he refuses to impart his vast lab intelligence on real world installation of valves and where best to locate them to minimize installation caused water hammers. He can critique but can he take a critiquing?
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Old 10-20-2010, 10:22 AM
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A millisecond? As in singular?
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Old 10-20-2010, 10:32 AM
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That's what Jess Stryker says!
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Old 10-20-2010, 10:52 AM
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My stopwatch doesn't go down to the microsecond range, so I won't opine about closing time, except to publicly doubt that Stryker has a microsecond stopwatch.
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