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Old 11-28-2010, 01:58 PM
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....not like god damn Deere that stamps their name on everything they don't build.
From Wikipedia (don't flip me sh#t for that, it is accurate and the easiest way to find this all listed in one place):

As of 2006[update], Deere & Company employs approximately 47,000 people in 27 countries worldwide, including the United States, Australia, Turkey, Canada, United Kingdom, China, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, India, Poland, Mexico, Morocco and South Africa, among many others. Inside the United States, the company's primary locations are its administrative center in Moline, Illinois, as well as various locations in the Midwest and southeastern United States. Most manufacturing sites are in Iowa or Illinois, as well as locations in Europe. Carl Westby is known as the person who coined the phrase "Nothing runs like a Deere."

Major North American factories include:

* Waterloo Works (foundry, engines, large agricultural tractors, drive trains, service parts, product engineering center) Waterloo, Iowa
* Harvester Works(large combine harvesters) East Moline, IL
* Cylinder Division (hydraulic cylinders) Moline, Illinois
* Seeding Group (planting equipment) Moline, Illinois and Valley City, North Dakota
* Davenport Works (wheel loaders, motor graders, articulated dump trucks, forestry equipment) Davenport, Iowa
* Dubuque Works (backhoes, crawlers, skid-steer loaders, forestry equipment) Dubuque, Iowa
* Des Moines Works (tillage equipment, cotton harvesters, sprayers) Ankeny, Iowa
* Ottumwa Works (hay and forage equipment) Ottumwa, Iowa
* Thibodaux Works (cane harvesting equipment, scrapers) Thibodaux, Louisiana
* Horicon Works (lawn & garden and turf care) Horicon, Wisconsin
* Augusta Works (small commercial and agricultural tractors) Augusta, Georgia
* Welland Works (agricultural and commercial front loaders, rotary cutters, Gators) Welland, Ontario. However, this plant is scheduled to close in 2009, with production moving to its existing factories in Horicon, Wisconsin and Mexico. Source
* Motores John Deere (Power Systems; 6- and 4-cylinder engines) Torreon, Mexico.
* John Deere Usine Saran (Power Systems) Fleury-les-Aubrais, France

Other Important Factories:

* John Deere Equipment Pvt Ltd (5000 Series Tractor manufacturers) Pune, India
* John Deere Werke Mannheim (6000 Series Tractors) Mannheim, Germany
* John Deere Werke Zweibrücken (Harvesting equipment) Zweibrücken, Germany
* John Deere Fabriek Horst, The Netherlands, Pulled & Self Proppeled agricultural sprayers for European Market
* John Deere Forestry Oy, Joensuu, Finland works: Cut-to-Length Forestry equipment
* John Deere Reman [1] (C&F Division): Remanufacturing components for off-highway vehicles. Facilities in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada (cylinders, axles, transmissions, pumps, hydraulic and powertrain components) and Springfield, Missouri, USA (engines, fuel systems, turbochargers).
* Sabo, Gummersbach, Germany (consumer and commercial lawn equipment)

[edit] Subsidiaries and affiliates
The John Deere Pavilion in Moline, Illinois.

* AGRIS Corporation (John Deere Agri Services).
* Chamberlain Tractors (Australia).
* John Deere Capital Corporation.
* John Deere Credit [2] (John Deere Credit and Finance) Johnston, Iowa.
* John Deere Landscapes (landscaping plants, materials, and irrigation equipment).
* Kemper (row tolerant headers for forage harvesters and combines) Stadtlohn, Germany.
* Waratah Forestry Attachments (forestry harvesting heads).
* Agreentech
* NavCom Technology, Inc. (precision positioning systems and intelligent mobile equipment technologies) Torrance, CA.
* Phoenix International Corporation (ruggedized Off-Road electronics) Fargo, ND.
* Ningbo Benye Tractor & Automobile Manufacture Co. Ltd. (low HP tractors) Ningbo, China.
* Xuzhou Xuwa Excavator Machinery Co., Ltd. {XCG} (excavators).

John Deere Renewables, LLC, a wind energy plant manufacturing arm which represented John Deere's extension into the renewable energy industry - under which it had successfully completed 36 projects in eight US states - was sold to Duke Energy in August of 2010.[3]
[edit] Collaborations and partnerships

* North American distributor of Hitachi-branded construction equipment.
* Deere-Hitachi, located in Kernersville, NC, is jointly owned by Deere & Company and Hitachi, and manufactures hydraulic excavators for the North American market.
* Partnership with Bell Equipment of South Africa provided Deere with articulated dump truck technology. In exchange, Bell manufactures Deere backhoe loaders in South Africa for distribution internationally.
* John Deere is provider of backhoe loader technology to Telco Construction Equipment Company, a subsidiary of Tata group in India.Source
* Nortrax, Inc. - largest distributor of John Deere heavy construction equipment in US and Canada.
* Ashok Leyland John Deere Construction Equipment Private Ltd., an Indian-based joint venture with Ashok Leyland, was set up in 2009, with production to begin in 2010. It will manufacture backhoes and wheel loaders.[4]
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Old 11-28-2010, 02:12 PM
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* North American distributor of Hitachi-branded construction equipment.
* Deere-Hitachi, located in Kernersville, NC, is jointly owned by Deere & Company and Hitachi, and manufactures hydraulic excavators for the North American market. Not true, Hitachi builds all of Deere's excavators and articulated loaders and Deere puts their fuel thirsty engines into them.
* Partnership with Bell Equipment of South Africa provided Deere with articulated dump truck technology. In exchange, Bell manufactures Deere backhoe loaders in South Africa for distribution internationally.

The only things Deere builds themselves are skid steers, some of the crawler dozers/loaders and any tractor that is green and intended for agricultural use, the green Forestry equipment is subject to anyone's opinion who builds them.

Caterpillar uses Mitsubishi to build the small hoes up to the 330's (some 330's are made in the US, check the VIN plates)

Now true crap would be SANY.
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Old 11-28-2010, 02:38 PM
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* North American distributor of Hitachi-branded construction equipment.
* Deere-Hitachi, located in Kernersville, NC, is jointly owned by Deere & Company and Hitachi, and manufactures hydraulic excavators for the North American market. Not true, Hitachi builds all of Deere's excavators and articulated loaders and Deere puts their fuel thirsty engines into them.
* Partnership with Bell Equipment of South Africa provided Deere with articulated dump truck technology. In exchange, Bell manufactures Deere backhoe loaders in South Africa for distribution internationally.

The only things Deere builds themselves are skid steers, some of the crawler dozers/loaders and any tractor that is green and intended for agricultural use, the green Forestry equipment is subject to anyone's opinion who builds them.

Caterpillar uses Mitsubishi to build the small hoes up to the 330's (some 330's are made in the US, check the VIN plates)

Now true crap would be SANY.

Actually Deere does not build their smaller green tractors.
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Old 11-28-2010, 03:01 PM
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Actually Deere does not build their smaller green tractors.
Forgot about those ones too, some are built in France, shipped off minus the transmissions and engines to other places that build them, the ZETOR tractors were based off Deere's idea for worldwide building practices, build some here, there, more over there and combine everything with nuts and bolts and super glue and duct tape in one place and sell worldwide.

Now ZETOR is the laughing stock compared to Mahindra.
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Old 11-28-2010, 03:28 PM
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* North American distributor of Hitachi-branded construction equipment.
* Deere-Hitachi, located in Kernersville, NC, is jointly owned by Deere & Company and Hitachi, and manufactures hydraulic excavators for the North American market. Not true, Hitachi builds all of Deere's excavators and articulated loaders and Deere puts their fuel thirsty engines into them.
* Partnership with Bell Equipment of South Africa provided Deere with articulated dump truck technology. In exchange, Bell manufactures Deere backhoe loaders in South Africa for distribution internationally.

The only things Deere builds themselves are skid steers, some of the crawler dozers/loaders and any tractor that is green and intended for agricultural use, the green Forestry equipment is subject to anyone's opinion who builds them.

Caterpillar uses Mitsubishi to build the small hoes up to the 330's (some 330's are made in the US, check the VIN plates)

Now true crap would be SANY.
I've personally been to most of the factories in Illinois and Iowa and seen the equipment being built there. I also personally know people who have worked at Augusta, Horicon, Fuquay-Varina, Mannheim, and Zweibrucken. The people working there and all the other places listed are employees of Deere and Co., and the sign outside the building says Deere on it. I don't know what to tell you other than that. Note that it does not say that the excavators are not designed by Hitachi, only that the facility in which they are built for the North American market is jointly owned by Deere and Hitachi. The factory in Kernersville builds both Deere and Hitachi midis and full-size excavators.

I'm not sure why you seem to think there is a vast conspiracy at Deere. You sure are worldly and knowledgeable for a high school dropout who lives with his parents.

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Actually Deere does not build their smaller green tractors.
Yes they do. I will freely admit that Deere does not design and/or build every single piece of equipment sold through their dealer network, but most of the crap spewed on this and other forums is complete bulls***.
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Old 11-28-2010, 03:45 PM
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To the original poster, sorry I hijacked your thread. I'm done discussing the above, as there is nothing to argue. Fact is fact.
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Old 11-28-2010, 03:53 PM
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The whole made in X country thing is a bit of a red herring. The subassemblies are usually made elsewhere and put together in the country of sale for tax reasons. And since the country of origin is calculated by the value of the work performed, a lot of equipment appears to be made in a country, whereas in reality the bulk of it is actually made elsewhere. If for example, you buy a new excavator for $100,000.00, it might be labeled as being made in Japan. But perhaps the components were assembled in Japan at an average wage of 30 dollars an hour for a total of $51000.00, but most of the subassemblies were built in China, at 8 dollars an hour, for a value of $49,000.00. The Chinese dollar value would be less than The Japanese, even though they did most of the work. So it is now a Japanese excavator.
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To the original poster, sorry I hijacked your thread. I'm done discussing the above, as there is nothing to argue. Fact is fact.
http://www.tractordata.com/farm-trac...eere-4115.html


http://www.tractordata.com/farm-trac...eere-1070.html

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http://www.tractordata.com/farm-trac...eere-2300.html



And I could go on. The most current machines tractordata.com does not know who builds them. Deere certainly has a history of rebadging some of their tractors, from Japan, the Czech republic, and there might be others but I have football to watch nothing sinister about it, they are a global company that is to be expected.
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http://www.tractordata.com/farm-trac...eere-4115.html


http://www.tractordata.com/farm-trac...eere-1070.html

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http://www.tractordata.com/farm-trac...eere-2300.html



And I could go on. The most current machines tractordata.com does not know who builds them. Deere certainly has a history of rebadging some of their tractors, from Japan, the Czech republic, and there might be others but I have football to watch nothing sinister about it, they are a global company that is to be expected.
Cough, Case, Cough.
http://www.tractordata.com/farm-trac...armall-95.html
How is Sumitomo/Case/LBX any different from Deere/Hitachi?

Looking at the current landscape of the construction/ag equipment industry, there are exactly 2 American based full line companies and they both use rebadging and joint ventures to stay competitive.
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With the small Deere isn't just they use the small yanmar diesel engine? They're great engines
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