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Old 01-07-2011, 11:56 PM
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First thing - don't always believe dealers. You can do this math yourself, or call another dealer and get them to run your VIN, and forward you the specs so you know for sure.

Also, I don't think I mentioned it but 2000lbs = 1 ton. A 4500 truck can haul 3 tons and a bit more, but a 3500 has an absolute max of no more than 3 tons. Take 3 tons, or 6000lbs, and subtract the weight of the driver, fuel, weight of the dump bed (say 1000lbs), and any other aftermarket equipment such as pintle hitch, spare tire (generally an option on one tons, so another 75lbs) and usable payload is roughly 2 tons, or slightly less. That would equate to around 5 perhaps 6 yards of mulch with a lower than usual moisture content, or 4 yards with a higher moisture content.
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Old 01-08-2011, 01:01 AM
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A dealer would tell you that a pig could fly by flapping it's ears if they thought it would get you to buy a truck. A 1 ton diesel with a dump bed weighs 8500-9000 pounds empty, GVWR is 12,000, do the math. GCWR is around 20-22K, I can't remember which. That is the maximum weight of truck AND trailer combined. Again, simple math, you're not going to be able to tow 20,000 lbs. Like other guys have said, 12K towing is about right, maybe a little more.
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Old 01-08-2011, 01:13 AM
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A dealer would tell you that a pig could fly by flapping it's ears if they thought it would get you to buy a truck. A 1 ton diesel with a dump bed weighs 8500-9000 pounds empty, GVWR is 12,000, do the math. GCWR is around 20-22K, I can't remember which. That is the maximum weight of truck AND trailer combined. Again, simple math, you're not going to be able to tow 20,000 lbs. Like other guys have said, 12K towing is about right, maybe a little more.
I concur... be sure to verify weights with the sticker in the door jamb. Aftermarket body installers have to have their own sticker or plate attached with adjusted weights.
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Old 01-09-2011, 04:51 PM
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I tow my dump trailer constantly with 6 tons of gravel grossing 23000. I use a 2000 GMC 3500 with a 7.4 and 5 spd with no problems. I used to have a small dozer that weighed 17000 that I pulled without any problems. I know this is above rated limits but if you respect the weight and use a little common sense you should have no troubles. Stay away from the DOT and if you are towing this every day buy A BIGGER TRUCK.
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Old 01-09-2011, 08:33 PM
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Even the class 8 guys run overweight from time to time. Most of the time it's not on purpose, but 'close' to being on par. If this is the case and they act stupid they might get no fine, or a small one.

Just don't run overweight and get into an accident. Even if it ain't your fault, you were running illegal, and it's your rear end on the line!
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