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Old 02-21-2011, 02:48 PM
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Here in TN you need an ARAP permit. Aquatic Resource Alteration Permit.

Go digging through the creek here and it can be a big fine. That's if you're just crossing it let alone wallowing straight through 200 yards of it.

They will generally want you to have some sediment or siltation abatement plan presented prior to doing anything.

You should be able to go to the WV-DENR to check. Sometimes you can have one in a few weeks, it'd take longer than that here for this job.
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Old 02-21-2011, 03:08 PM
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Old 02-21-2011, 04:15 PM
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I just called on geotextile fabric.. looking at $400 a roll for a 15x300 ft roll. This sound reasonable for the fabric?
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Old 02-21-2011, 04:39 PM
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Don't use any fabric. You want vegitation to grow through the rock. The grasses root systems will do a great job holding the bank in place. The rock thats being placed will keep the bank stable untill the vegitation takes hold.

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Old 02-21-2011, 04:46 PM
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Don't use any fabric. You want vegitation to grow through the rock. The grasses root systems will do a great job holding the bank in place. The rock thats being placed will keep the bank stable untill the vegitation takes hold.

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Old 02-21-2011, 06:04 PM
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What is a base figure on gabion basket installation? Thinking $50-100 per basket installed?
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Old 02-21-2011, 06:43 PM
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I pm'd you my contact info. I will help if I can.

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Old 02-21-2011, 06:55 PM
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The clean water act will probably apply to this job BUT if you are far enough upstream and isolated enough, you can limit government intrusion but make sure you use BMP's and limit the water turbidity. I don't think this would be considered a wetland but you never know and affecting anyone downstream can be troublesome BUT repairing a creek or restoring a creek isn't the same as damning it up or diverting it. In Texas, you are supposed to get permission to work in the creeks BEFORE you start.
This is something I want to do more and more of too so let's hear from more of you guys that do this..
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Old 02-21-2011, 07:30 PM
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I would bid it by the day or bid it high if you're not sure how long it will take. Definitely get whatever permits needed before you start. I would find out exactly what they want as far as the rocks go. Stacking them like you're thinking will take some time and could be an issue if you bid by the job.

Before you bid anything, I would call in locates for any possible utilities. I turned down a larger creek job in a subdivision last year after I called in locates. Phase 3 power, telephone, and gas lines all ran through the creek. The job wasn't worth the risk.
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Old 02-21-2011, 07:32 PM
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I would bid it by the day or bid it high if you're not sure how long it will take. Definitely get whatever permits needed before you start. I would find out exactly what they want as far as the rocks go. Stacking them like you're thinking will take some time and could be an issue if you bid by the job.

Before you bid anything, I would call in locates for any possible utilities. I turned down a larger creek job in a subdivision last year after I called in locates. Phase 3 power, telephone, and gas lines all ran through the creek. The job wasn't worth the risk.
I have a estimate in my head now thanks to help from a member.

There is nothing ran underground here, its all above ground. I will call 811 before hand though. Even gas lines are laid above ground for some reason. Farther north they arent, though.
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