Register free!


Reply
 
Thread Tools   Display Modes
  #11  
Old 02-21-2011, 07:20 PM
Florida Gardener's Avatar
Florida Gardener Florida Gardener is online now
LawnSite Fanatic
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Humid S. Fl. with sights set on San Diego
Posts: 5,196
Not really if you think about it. A commercial trimmer is $350+. When you consider that the average account that has a specialty grass here goes for 1000+/mo, it is a great investment. Most yard boys are too dumb to look at the big picture. Hell, most of em only want to cut Bahia and St. Aug. BTW, I was referring to St. Aug in my last post.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 02-21-2011, 07:30 PM
greendoctor greendoctor is offline
LawnSite Fanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii
Posts: 7,428
I had a feeling you were. The proper tool for st augustine is a rotary mower set fairly high. I regularly chew yard people out for scalping st augustine with a weedeater and letting zoysia and bermuda get higher and higher because the string cannot cut it low enough. On small areas, that bladed trimmer produces a premium cut. But, as you said most yard boys do not look at the big picture. I have to turn away lots of mowing work because I am a one man operation. I tell clients how the grass should be groomed and they would rather have me do it.
__________________
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin 1775

Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power.
Benjamin Franklin Poor Richard's Almanac1738
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 02-21-2011, 07:51 PM
Florida Gardener's Avatar
Florida Gardener Florida Gardener is online now
LawnSite Fanatic
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Humid S. Fl. with sights set on San Diego
Posts: 5,196
Yea, St Aug cut too short is the norm here. I cut mine at 4" in the winter and 4.25-4.5 in the summer.
Posted via Mobile Device
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 02-21-2011, 08:01 PM
greendoctor greendoctor is offline
LawnSite Fanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii
Posts: 7,428
No lower than 4" is about right if we are talking about the regular fast growing cultivars. I have confirmed with sod growers in my state that the st augustine here is usually Texas common or Floralawn. Not the new ultra dwarf varieties. So a 1" or 2" cut is not the wisest thing to do.
__________________
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin 1775

Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power.
Benjamin Franklin Poor Richard's Almanac1738
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 02-21-2011, 08:10 PM
Florida Gardener's Avatar
Florida Gardener Florida Gardener is online now
LawnSite Fanatic
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Humid S. Fl. with sights set on San Diego
Posts: 5,196
Yea, floratam is the most common here. I don't see many people using dwarf cultivars. It is mind boggling to me why people think a white or yellow lawn looks good after a nice scalp???
Posted via Mobile Device
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 02-21-2011, 08:27 PM
greendoctor greendoctor is offline
LawnSite Fanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii
Posts: 7,428
They stop liking that look when they are educated about the consequences of scalping st augustine. Usually in Hawaii, st augustine is a specialty grass used on sites that are too shady for bermuda or zoysia. Scalping under those conditions will mean a mud lawn within a year. In Florida, in the sun, I would imagine converting the lawn to crabgrass or bermuda as a consequence for abusing the lawn.
__________________
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin 1775

Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power.
Benjamin Franklin Poor Richard's Almanac1738
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 02-21-2011, 09:02 PM
Florida Gardener's Avatar
Florida Gardener Florida Gardener is online now
LawnSite Fanatic
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Humid S. Fl. with sights set on San Diego
Posts: 5,196
Bermuda will invade a healthy yard. A scalped yard means you now have a 50-50 mix. CG will also invade any chance it gets.
Posted via Mobile Device
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 02-21-2011, 09:07 PM
greendoctor greendoctor is offline
LawnSite Fanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii
Posts: 7,428
I suppose that is related to using st augustine in the sun. I do not see crabgrass or bermuda invading st augustine here, provided it is never scalped and grown in partial shade. My definition of crazy is putting st augustine out in 90+ degree weather and in full sun with watering restrictions and fertilizer restrictions. Under those conditions, bermuda has the definite advantage.
__________________
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin 1775

Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power.
Benjamin Franklin Poor Richard's Almanac1738
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 02-21-2011, 09:33 PM
Florida Gardener's Avatar
Florida Gardener Florida Gardener is online now
LawnSite Fanatic
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Humid S. Fl. with sights set on San Diego
Posts: 5,196
Yea, I will not take on an account if there is no irrigation and they won't fert. They can call Juan or Billy bob for that.
Posted via Mobile Device
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 02-21-2011, 09:42 PM
greendoctor greendoctor is offline
LawnSite Fanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii
Posts: 7,428
On my end, I do not take accounts that are not properly mowed. As for the irrigation. I set the controllers. When that is tampered with, they can find someone else to manage their lawn.
__________________
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin 1775

Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power.
Benjamin Franklin Poor Richard's Almanac1738
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1998 - 2012, LawnSite.comô - Moose River Media
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:13 AM.

Page generated in 0.08627 seconds with 7 queries