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Old 03-04-2011, 01:24 PM
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Hey guys....just tons and tons of stuff going on right now. Was in Las Vegas all week with a show.

I'll try and get on LawnSite more frequently but we have been working on several new products and the newer versions of our seeders, aerators, stump grinders, etc....lots of very exciting stuff going on right now.

I'm told our new website will be up in a few weeks.....it won't dissapoint.

The 24" Dual Hydro will be out this spring but not sure exactly when.....I would guess 4 weeks we will start shipping them. You will see it here first and from the guys who are actually building them.

The reason for the delay is we keep making them a little better.....which isn't a bad thing.
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Old 03-04-2011, 04:01 PM
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Thats great. I would love to have one. Do you have a price for them yet? Will I be able to get them locally? I live in Georgia.

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Old 03-04-2011, 04:03 PM
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Howard Brothers will have them and they are $4250

That is once they start shipping.
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Old 03-04-2011, 11:46 PM
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Hey guys....just tons and tons of stuff going on right now. Was in Las Vegas all week with a show.

I'll try and get on LawnSite more frequently but we have been working on several new products and the newer versions of our seeders, aerators, stump grinders, etc....lots of very exciting stuff going on right now.

I'm told our new website will be up in a few weeks.....it won't dissapoint.

The 24" Dual Hydro will be out this spring but not sure exactly when.....I would guess 4 weeks we will start shipping them. You will see it here first and from the guys who are actually building them.

The reason for the delay is we keep making them a little better.....which isn't a bad thing.
I was told they weren't available till August and put an order in in July. Are you telling me different? I have been waiting for this machine. But I can't wait till August. If it ships by mid April Count me in just let me know cause I see another aerator in my future very sooooooon, as in yesterday!
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Old 03-05-2011, 01:05 PM
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You are very correct the Plugr 850 has a very HIGH fiddle factor. I haven't had the clutch key fall out or good bad on me [can you describe that] and I'm frankly waiting for the frame to crack on my older 850 in the spot you mentioned. Cracked frames are common on the PL600 and PL800 as well. If you don't mind can you PM me you serial number or post it here so I can see if yours is older/newer than mine. Another poster here said Plugr fixed his frame even though it was past warranty and THEY have since upgraded or reinforced the stressed areas on later generation 850's. The front frame rail on mine is split on the square tubing and my GX200 engine has a stress cracked on the left rear position causing an oil leak. The tine cover on mine has bounced around so much I has stress cracks that have been stop drilled and the spot weld on the slide rail finally gave way and reached it with hardware. When I engage reverse on the Hydro drive I'm experiencing an intermittent binding effect [reverse only] like the hydro is malfunctioning or the chain is binding but every time I inspect chain adjustment it seems fine???

I called Plugr last month about Hydro oil replacement and they said use SAE 30....WT? Who ever I talked to had to look it up...?

The issue I have had with it [PL850] pushed me to get the Lawn Solutions 21" WB last Spring for some sort of redundancy. Even though the LS unit pulls a denser pattern than the Plugr 400 & 600's several of my customers noted "....Hey didn't your last aeration crank out more plugs...what's the deal with that NEW machine.?...?".

I absolutely love to run the Lawn Solutions WB unit over rocky ground. Just a gentile clunk and a smile from me. I have the full weight kit and I'm going to be doing a weight mod on it shortly and attached extra weight to the back where the carriage bolt holes are and add more counter weights up front to for counter balance. On fairly flat properties it's a joy to use. Traversing side hills not so great you need to go up and down.

I was considering getting a newer 855 or a Ryan 28 but I found a basically brand new slightly used Plugr 850 for $2500 just a month ago. I fell all over myself the grab that up. Now I have the needed redundancy. I'm still interested in a Ryan 28 but that will have to wait.

I believe the new 855 is much simpler to maintain, fewer moving parts etc. My local dealer wants an arm and leg for them and I don't think has ever sold one. I'd like to see one my self. I have said it before...IMO - not much point in spending more money on a 850/855 or a expensive Ryan 28 unless you're getting more money out of using it vs. the more standard rolling tine units most people use. I'm done delivering 33% more Plugs with my 850 and paying the price of fiddle factor and expensive tines for aeration rates 1.5 times the mow rate. If clients insist on chewing me down on prices they will get the Lawn Solutions machine which will be my economy line of aerations yet still pulls 15% more plugs over other rolling tine units. With my marketing angle the wider spacing of the Dually 24 Hydro it would have to be priced lower than what the 21 WB would be? That unit just doesn't fit my business model of "more plugs pulled - in a pass".

If one is not claiming more plugs with their aeration service and for ease of use the Lawn Soutions Dual Hydro look very slick as a WB and with the sulky.

I'm tentatively interested in the LS stander however the size of the properties I aerate where I believe this unit would be most efficient are not all that profitable thanks to the big companies here. Just need to demo the machine in rocky soil and on side hills with rocks to be convinced if it is worth $8500 to me. Frankly there is more money in lining up 2 or 3 smaller properties than one bigger on here so the advantages of running a stander may not exist for me in my beat down market.
Great info. I appreciate all your thoughts. I'll probably just use my 850 as a back up, and not as the work horse anymore. Tired of messing with it all the time. I send a couple 2 man crews out, and there's nothing worse than running around and fixing machines when they break all day.
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Old 03-10-2011, 10:47 AM
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I just read read that LS is producing a line for Toro. I wonder if thats why all the confusion exists with their dealers?
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Old 03-10-2011, 10:48 AM
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Do you have a reasonably firm ship date. I know you have been in Vegas
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Howard Brothers will have them and they are $4250

That is once they start shipping.
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Old 03-10-2011, 10:54 AM
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Yes, 2-3 weeks....I was in St Louis yesterday at a dealer with one. They will be ready by the April 1st or a little sooner.

We spent this last week working on the controls, feel, fit and finish to the point it will blow people away who get them. They aren't the ride-on unit but getting closer.....but they will only cost 1/2 as much.
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Old 03-14-2011, 12:51 PM
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I just ordered the 24" LS aerator (Briggs) today through my dealer for $3925 before taxes and I should have it in a week. He told me that I could get the same machine with a Honda engine for $4250.
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Old 03-14-2011, 12:53 PM
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I just ordered the 24" LS aerator (Briggs) today through my dealer for $3925 before taxes and I should have it in a week. He told me that I could get the same machine with a Honda engine for $4250.
They are all going to be Honda....the option will be pull or electric start.

$4250 pull
$4500 key start
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