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Old 04-09-2011, 06:59 PM
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Best way to treat crabcrass in a organic way

What if you can't use pre-emer, or chemicals to kill the crabgrass?

I know that crabgrass is a annual weed and will most likely be killed as the first frost comes in fall. (in Canada), but the seeds will remain on the ground, therefor creating new plants in spring.

Is crabgrass a type of weed that does not tolerate frequent mowing? If so, frequent mowing would eventually kill the crabgrass?

What are the other ways you can "Naturally" kill the crabrass? I am speaking of mostly Kentucky blue grass lawns, kentucky is good for choking out weeds at a 3" height, but crabgrass grows higher and sooner than that.

Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 04-09-2011, 08:29 PM
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Corn Gluten Meal is the organic answer to preemergent herbicides.
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Old 04-10-2011, 06:46 AM
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Better soil structure. Dont have an envirement where CG can thrive.
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Old 04-10-2011, 08:12 AM
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Corn Gluten Meal is the organic answer to preemergent herbicides.
Doesn't corn gluten meal attracts a lot of ants?

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Better soil structure. Dont have an envirement where CG can thrive.
What kind of soil crabgrass doesn't thrive in? We have mostly clay here.
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Doesn't corn gluten meal attracts a lot of ants?



What kind of soil crabgrass doesn't thrive in? We have mostly clay here.
There isn't one! I think he means develop a strong thick turf by way of developing a healthy soil which will compete better against the crabgrass.
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Old 04-10-2011, 10:17 AM
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I never use CG pre-M on turf...

CG, is a low growing grass that fills in vacant, hot, dry spots in the dirt, that are not being used by other grasses... They can live off dew in such a way that it thrives, during the same time KBG is slowing down, even going dormant in the summer heat...

Mulch mowing, keeps the soil cool and protected for KBG roots and Rhyzomes to grow into... Mowing higher when the heat comes does the same thing... Not fertilizing just b4 or during the heat is an important practice...

This business about CGM for pre-m, and a 2yr buildup to prevent 80% of seed germination... begs a simple question, When can one overseed???
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Old 04-10-2011, 12:20 PM
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I never use CG pre-M on turf...

CG, is a low growing grass that fills in vacant, hot, dry spots in the dirt, that are not being used by other grasses... They can live off dew in such a way that it thrives, during the same time KBG is slowing down, even going dormant in the summer heat...

Mulch mowing, keeps the soil cool and protected for KBG roots and Rhyzomes to grow into... Mowing higher when the heat comes does the same thing... Not fertilizing just b4 or during the heat is an important practice...

This business about CGM for pre-m, and a 2yr buildup to prevent 80% of seed germination... begs a simple question, When can one overseed???
for KBG 3 weeks before or 3 weeks after seeding
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Old 04-11-2011, 05:50 AM
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Ok thanks for your help guys
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Old 04-11-2011, 06:22 AM
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There isn't one! I think he means develop a strong thick turf by way of developing a healthy soil which will compete better against the crabgrass.
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Correct, crabgrass does thrive worse in a sandy soil. A healthy turf in loam will fight it off better.
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Old 04-11-2011, 09:18 AM
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for KBG 3 weeks before or 3 weeks after seeding
Could I also sow CG 3 weeks b4 and 3 weeks after?

(A root inhibitor pre-m lasts for 90 days, and kills every seed that germinates)...

What is the system that makes CGM special?
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