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Old 05-17-2011, 12:03 PM
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Poison Ivy and walkway clearing

First post over here in the organic section, please be kind.

To start, I am not licensed to apply any sort of pesticide in my state. I'm not going to do the applying myself of any information i receive here. I am interested in getting information for one of my customers who, to make a long short, has a very good reason to be completely terrified of any chemicals at all.

With that said, she has a paver walkway that is becoming quickly overgrown with grass and weeds that she does not want to be there at all. Also, she is now beginning to get a very bad case of poison ivy in her back yard, climbing both a large oak tree and her privacy fence.

Any suggestions to either kill or at least stunt the growth of either of these issues would be greatly appreciated.

*as an aside, I have read on here on several occasions that high concentrate vinegar works similar to glysophate. is this true, and where would one go about finding that product?
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Old 05-17-2011, 12:36 PM
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First post over here in the organic section, please be kind.

To start, I am not licensed to apply any sort of pesticide in my state. I'm not going to do the applying myself of any information i receive here. I am interested in getting information for one of my customers who, to make a long short, has a very good reason to be completely terrified of any chemicals at all.

With that said, she has a paver walkway that is becoming quickly overgrown with grass and weeds that she does not want to be there at all. Also, she is now beginning to get a very bad case of poison ivy in her back yard, climbing both a large oak tree and her privacy fence.

Any suggestions to either kill or at least stunt the growth of either of these issues would be greatly appreciated.

*as an aside, I have read on here on several occasions that high concentrate vinegar works similar to glysophate. is this true, and where would one go about finding that product?
Use a propane weed burner for the paver driveway.

There are a number of products that will top kill poison ivy; Avenger and Burn Out and 20% vinegar come to mind. Several applications are required.
They do not translocate and kill roots as glysophate does. Do not use a propane torch on PI!

applying glysophate while she is away on vacation might be the best choice for killing the PI.
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Old 05-17-2011, 01:07 PM
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I'm not going to lie, I've never heard of a propane weed burner, but I'm now very interested. Do you have any suggestions on make/model, etc. Also, half the area around the pavers is a privacy fence. Having never used a propane weed burner, I'm making an assumption that using such a product would not be useful around a fence or the home, correct?
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I'm not going to lie, I've never heard of a propane weed burner, but I'm now very interested. Do you have any suggestions on make/model, etc. Also, half the area around the pavers is a privacy fence. Having never used a propane weed burner, I'm making an assumption that using such a product would not be useful around a fence or the home, correct?
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Old 05-17-2011, 08:28 PM
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you can also use a string trimmer to keep the things growing in the pavers short and maybe that will be enough, especially when it gets hot

Barry who gave the reply earlier has a couple of products, heed what he says on use for poison ivy
www.techterraorganics.com/
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Old 05-18-2011, 09:17 AM
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Put household bleach in a hand held spray bottle. Spraying the poison ivy with bleach will kill it. Ususally takes two applications. Spray about a week apart until the PI is dead.

If you don't mind bending down you can use a small hand held propane burner like the type plumbers use to sweat pipes for the weeds in the cracks.
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Old 05-18-2011, 09:29 AM
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Burning PI puts the poison in the air, for sure... If possible go a head and pull it out by the roots and take it away... The dead plants still have the poisonous oils in place for another season in most cases... I was never allergic, but now I'm moderately allergic, so I use big gloves and wash thoroughly with fels-naptha soap immediately after...

Oh, and I found out that you don't want to use the standard propane tank, used for grilling... There is a valve built into those tanks the reduce the amount of gas available for "Safety Reasons". Find a tank with adequate gas flow, otherwise your likely to have problems with keeping the torch lit... especially the smaller tips that you'll want to use for pavers...
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Old 05-18-2011, 01:34 PM
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*as an aside, I have read on here on several occasions that high concentrate vinegar works similar to glysophate. is this true, and where would one go about finding that product?
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Put household bleach in a hand held spray bottle. Spraying the poison ivy with bleach will kill it. Ususally takes two applications. Spray about a week apart until the PI is dead.

If you don't mind bending down you can use a small hand held propane burner like the type plumbers use to sweat pipes for the weeds in the cracks.
As an aside--at least here in MI--if you would use vinegar or a bleach solution to control weeds and you are being paid for such controls, it would be classified as a pesticide and need to be labeled as such. And you would need to be licensed.
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