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Old 07-05-2011, 08:37 PM
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First and foremost, I appreciate all the replies and advice. I cannot emphasize how SHADY that portion of the lawn is. Also, the water does NOT puddle there are at all. The is a slight pitch towards the rear of the lawn. The real problem appears to be DRAINAGE. The other 2/3 or so of the lawn is looking good.
All you are going to get on this forum without providing more information/data is guesses. You need to verify what is going on with the soil. Find the cause of the problem and fix it. Place to start here is checking/mapping your soil for compaction.
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Old 07-05-2011, 10:21 PM
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Just to add to this discussion, I had someone else come over and take a look. He felt it was "perched" water and suggested running drains, underneath towards a low point(to the rear). The first thing he suggested was digging a hole with a post hole digger about two feet down and see what is going on, then take it from there. I will update this post as time I progress, once again, THANKS!
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Old 07-06-2011, 10:23 AM
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... When you say this OP is not going to correct the soil, what is needed for correcting the soil? Maybe I will?
The first step is to look at the soil profile to see what you are dealing with...
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Now that I know that clay's texture(platelets) has nothing to do with water infiltration, percolation, or drainage
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Old 07-06-2011, 03:10 PM
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Some new pics as of 3:05 PM(EST). I tried a profile pic., but the square I took out did handle well.
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Bottom of pic. shows the square, have to be honest, was not crazy wet.

Over all soil pulled from hole, not muddy at all.

Area where I was standing, SWAMP!

Profile of interior of hole, not wet at all.
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Old 07-06-2011, 03:39 PM
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That is some of the crappiest looking "topsoil" I have seen.

What is going on at the red line? Looks like sand piled on top of clay.
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Old 07-06-2011, 03:47 PM
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Not sure what is going on at the red line. Keep in mind, that this WHOLE area was filled with fill after a retaining wall was constructed. Sod was placed on top. Funny thing, the other side of the lawn is doing nicely, and this side is.....well you know.
Solution?
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Old 07-06-2011, 03:52 PM
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Not sure what is going on at the red line.
Is it a transition between two different soils types/textures? Is it compacted like it looks?
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Old 07-06-2011, 04:26 PM
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The top section I removed was tight(compacted). Underneath was actually pretty loose and moist, not soaked. As far as the composition, hard to tell. When they back filled, the used fill and then some cleaner type soil on top, then sod.
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Old 07-06-2011, 04:50 PM
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Pick an arbitrary scale (1 being little to no resistance, 10 being high resistance) and map how hard it is to penetrate the soil measuring each inch or so down to 12" using a screw driver.

Also, dig until you hit your native soil, not fill garbage.
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Old 07-06-2011, 09:07 PM
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The other day, I went around with a pitchfork to so called poormans aerate the lawn. The surface to say about 4-6 inches was very compact. After that, not as bad, maybe rocky due to the fill. So, I would say the top layer is COMPACT!!
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