EPA emissions requirements and Ethanol fuel. How much of your equipment is ruined?

[CL&T]

Sadly you make a good point.

[DA Quality Lawn & YS]

Originally Posted by CL&T

It's not just a matter of making fuel system components resistant to ethanol, that can be done. It's the separation and water absorption that occurs in ethanol fuel that is causing damage also and that is not something that any vehicle or equipment manufacturer can do anything about. You can't make an engine run on water and crap. The only way to solve this is to vote the clowns out of office. Then this renewable fuel nonsense will go away.

Yes you can, your ignorance clearly shows.
Lots of vehicles out these days that run on E-85. And at least that 'crap' is grown and harvested right here in the USA you dingdong. And although it is far from perfect, who knows what technologies it may segway into. I state again, renewables are not going away, they are only going advance

[CL&T]

Yeah right. Let your Flex fuel vehicle sit for a few months with E85 in the tank and see how it runs. Ethanol is crap. The sooner you realize that the better everyone will be. You people that are drinking the government Kool Aid need to realize that ethanol doesn't save us ANYTHING and is just another asinine program like all the rest politicians dream up to put money into their own pockets.

[CL&T]

And I forgot to add- remember MBTE? That garbage was added to gasoline before ethanol. Wow, this is great stuff. Really going to cut emissions. Then they found that it was seeping into ground water and contaminating it for miles around. Jackasses.

[NEW CITY LAWN CARE LLC]

I always buy mid-grade fuel and have never bought more than I use in a week and I haven't had that many problems with my equipment other than maybe a fuel filter and primer bulb but that's about it....

[Terry Metro Lawn]

I see you folks are quite passionate about this subject. Discussion good, namecalling bad. Just my .02.

I think we can all agree that ethanol costs much more than is passed-on. How long the Gov will continue to support this cost, who knows?

Unfortunately unless we go E100 we are still forced to import a substantial amount of oil.

The shelf life of ordinary gasoline is two weeks. Ethanol separates from gasoline (floats) a lot faster than that.

I don't think ethanol is the answer. It simply costs too much to produce plus it's very hard starting in cold weather.

We have domestic fuels available and not just propane. Why reinvent the wheel?

[pressley10r]

I was buying one new carb per year for all of my 2t handheld equipment until I found a couple local stations that sell ethanol-free. Startron and marine grade stabil are only a bandaid, you will still have gummed up carbs, just not as often. I'm happy as long as they keep ethanol free gas available, cause that's the only real option IMO to keep small 2t's running.

[CL&T]

Sorry for the name calling that was aimed at politicians, certainly not members of this board. And yes I do get really upset when politicians force something down our throats that is obviously defective, benefits only the ethanol producers and pays subsidies (out of our tax money) to the gasoline producers.

[Terry Metro Lawn]

Originally Posted by CL&T

Sorry for the name calling that was aimed at politicians, certainly not members of this board. And yes I do get really upset when politicians force something down our throats that is obviously defective, benefits only the ethanol producers and pays subsidies (out of our tax money) to the gasoline producers.

Well said and, sadly, true.

[NEW CITY LAWN CARE LLC]

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