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Old 08-23-2011, 10:25 AM
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You guys are missing the point.....

A NEW Kohler Courage engine costs about $500, If you have an internal failure, its cheaper to replace, unless you can fix it yourself.
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Old 08-23-2011, 11:37 AM
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As promised... It looks like I am an idiot, and have thrown a rod. The mechanic took the flywheel off and freed it up. He says that you can turn the engine so far, and then it sticks. He told me that if I get a short block, he could get me back running.

Any ideas on where and how much? I don't see the full engine for $500 anywhere. I would be willing if it is out there. What do you look for to find the short block? I'm not having much luck tracking that down. Thanks.
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Old 08-23-2011, 12:13 PM
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Found a 20 hp Courage (not much difference) for $499
http://www.brandnewengines.com/SV710-0019.aspx

Look around..just google the engine...
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Old 08-23-2011, 12:57 PM
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Could you guys look and see if this would easily be replaced? I don't mind giving up 1 HP if everything else is a natural fit. Thanks for you help.


SV610

Cylinders Single
Cooling Air
Engine 4-cycle, gasoline, OHV, single-cylinder, air-cooled, vertical shaft, full pressure lubrication with full-flow filter, aluminum head and crankcase with cast iron cylinder liner.
Rated Horsepower 21 hp (15.7 kW) @ 3600 RPM
Displacement 36.4 cu. in. (597 cc)
Bore x Stroke 3.7 in. (94 mm) x 3.4 in. (86 mm)
Torque 38.1 lbs. ft. (51.6 Nm) @ 2200
Compression Ratio 8.5:1
Oil Capacity 1.6 quarts (1.5 l)
Lubrication Full pressure w/full-flow filter
Dimensions
Weight 79 lbs (35.8 kg)
Dimensions (LxWxH) 19.3" x 16.5" x 12.9"
General Information
Shaft Type Vertical

SV710

Cylinders Single
Cooling Air
Engine 4-cycle, gasoline, OHV, single-cylinder, air-cooled, vertical shaft, full pressure lubrication with full-flow filter, aluminum head and crankcase with cast iron cylinder liner.
Rated Horsepower 15 hp (11.2 kW) @ 3600 RPM
Displacement 36.4 cu. in. (597 cc)
Bore x Stroke 3.7 in. (94 mm) x 3.4 in. (86 mm)
Torque 27 lbs. ft. (36.6 Nm) @ 2200
Compression Ratio 8.5:1
Oil Capacity 1.6 quarts (1.5 l)
Lubrication Full pressure w/full-flow filter


Dimensions
Weight 79 lbs (35.8 kg)
Dimensions (LxWxH) 19.4" x 16.4" x 12.9"


General Information
Shaft Type Vertical
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Old 08-23-2011, 12:58 PM
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Scratch that last request. The HP is way off.
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Old 08-23-2011, 01:05 PM
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Alright, Piston has graciously offered a 1 HP downgrade replacement. I can get a brand new SV610-3211 for $795. I can get a brand new SV710-0019 for $500. I could get my short block for $590. I don't mind giving up 1 HP if it will just fit right back in without any major re-work. Do the specs below suggest that it would be easy to swap them out?


SV710

Cylinders Twin
Cooling Air
Engine 4-cycle, gasoline, OHV, twin-cylinder, air-cooled, vertical shaft, full pressure lubrication with full-flow filter, aluminum head and crankcase with cast iron cylinder liners.
Rated Horsepower 20 hp (14.9 kW) @ 3600 RPM
Displacement 44 cu. in. (725 cc)
Bore x Stroke 3.3 in. (83 mm) x 2.6 in. (67 mm)
Torque 38.4 lbs. ft (52.1 Nm) @ 2200
Compression Ratio 9:1
Oil Capacity 2.0 quarts (1.9 l)
Lubrication Pressure w/full-flow filter
Dimensions
Weight 91 lbs (41.5 kg)
Dimensions (LxWxH) 18.5" x 17.8" x 13.4"
General Information
Shaft Type Vertical



SV610

Cylinders Single
Cooling Air
Engine 4-cycle, gasoline, OHV, single-cylinder, air-cooled, vertical shaft, full pressure lubrication with full-flow filter, aluminum head and crankcase with cast iron cylinder liner.
Rated Horsepower 21 hp (15.7 kW) @ 3600 RPM
Displacement 36.4 cu. in. (597 cc)
Bore x Stroke 3.7 in. (94 mm) x 3.4 in. (86 mm)
Torque 38.1 lbs. ft. (51.6 Nm) @ 2200
Compression Ratio 8.5:1
Oil Capacity 1.6 quarts (1.5 l)
Lubrication Full pressure w/full-flow filter

Dimensions
Weight 79 lbs (35.8 kg)
Dimensions (LxWxH) 19.3" x 16.5" x 12.9"
General Information
Shaft Type Vertical
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Old 08-23-2011, 04:16 PM
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Is there any way to know for sure that this will fit on my mower? Toro Z5000 Model 74370 - Made in 2008
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Old 08-23-2011, 07:24 PM
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There's three things that need to be compared between these two engines....

1) PTO crank diameter and length along with bolt hole size.
2) Charging system amp output.
3) Throttle/choke control configuration.

None of these things are listed in your above info, Call and talk to the company you want to get the engine from. They should be able to tell you if they'll interchange.....
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Old 08-24-2011, 10:24 AM
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Is there any way to know for sure that this will fit on my mower? Toro Z5000 Model 74370 - Made in 2008
we would need your model and spec to tell you that. I have only seen your model.
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Old 08-24-2011, 11:04 AM
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Don't forget...
4) Who is replacing the engine.

It's all good so long that's you.
But if you have someone else working on it I would clear this up with them,
if you are thinking of buying your own engine that might work, or it might be
worth it to just pay the mechanic's shortblock $590?

You see, they may or may not make money on the part, they may or may not care
whose engine goes on and then they may or may not care who buys the engine itself,
but if you have a mechanic doing the actual repair I would likely consult with them first.
Yes, long before buying anything...
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