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Old 09-18-2011, 05:55 AM
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Running Wiring through Existing Water Distribution Pipes

When fiber optics was just coming in, I recall some of the oil transport companies used their existing infrastructure to run fiber from one geographic area to another. The fiber was run through their oil pipe distribution system. Apparently this practice is not used with irrigation systems.

In my case I would like to add a zone for a landscape plant area. My existing piping to a turf area is ideally located. By adding electric valves, one for the new landscape area and one for the turf area, there is very little new piping that needs to be added. If I were to run the wiring inside the existing water pipe, I would need to do almost no digging.

I am just curious why this is never done.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:43 AM
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What is wrong with using a doubler?
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Old 09-18-2011, 11:26 AM
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Old 09-18-2011, 11:53 AM
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What is wrong with using a doubler?
Didn't know these existed and they look like an excellent application to add to existing installed electric valve.

In my case, I am chucking an indexing valve located near the controller. I want to use the existing pipe in the ground to control the existing sprays and to add a separate landscape plant area. So I want to install two co-located valves out in the yard using the existing pipe. I was looking for an easy way to run the 30 feet of wire - inside the existing pipe sounded easier than digging.
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Old 09-18-2011, 11:58 AM
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What could be easier than digging in Florida sand?
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Old 09-18-2011, 12:01 PM
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Doublers are for hacks. Real pros use a Quick Link!

http://www.vrmanufacturing.com/PDF'S..._QUICKLINK.pdf
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Old 09-18-2011, 12:04 PM
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Oh... and to the OP... I guess there is nothing really wrong with running the wires through an abandoned lateral. It's really no different then running them through a sleeve under concrete.
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Old 09-18-2011, 12:13 PM
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When fiber optics was just coming in, I recall some of the oil transport companies used their existing infrastructure to run fiber from one geographic area to another. The fiber was run through their oil pipe distribution system. Apparently this practice is not used with irrigation systems.

In my case I would like to add a zone for a landscape plant area. My existing piping to a turf area is ideally located. By adding electric valves, one for the new landscape area and one for the turf area, there is very little new piping that needs to be added. If I were to run the wiring inside the existing water pipe, I would need to do almost no digging.

I am just curious why this is never done.
use the pipe, all of the expansion devices are last ditch saviours.

using pvc for LV conduit is better than using expanders, you may be long gone when someone has to work on the system, a pit on one end of the pipe will allow maintenance access.
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Old 09-18-2011, 02:11 PM
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Nowhere did I see that the existing pipe/zone was abandond. From the looks of it the OP is trying to use existing irrigation pipe that is being used for an existing usable zone.

For only thirty feet of turning a little turf and digging to depth, I would do it properly and dig.

Mick
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Old 09-18-2011, 09:42 PM
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Doublers are for hacks. Real pros use a Quick Link!

http://www.vrmanufacturing.com/PDF'S..._QUICKLINK.pdf
Real pros don't use any type of "doubler" .... so I guess that makes you a hack.

The "doubler" reference was a generic reference for using 1 wire to control two valves, it was not a product reference or I would have said "the doubler" not "a doubler". Learn how to read Dan.
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