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Old 09-25-2011, 02:31 PM
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that's a thrust block?
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Old 09-25-2011, 02:47 PM
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We don't use air to blow out the valves,

Usually the building contractors economy T and discount house thrust block give way first.
That's just lovely!
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Old 09-25-2011, 06:44 PM
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(Deadhead) South Florida special; sewer T in a high presure irrigation line; capped off, with a cinder block set as a thrust block to keep the nipple from blowing out of the T.

One of the reasons I love it down here, few things are done properly and shortcuts abound; as long as $hit breaks, my maintenance company gets to fix it

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Old 09-26-2011, 08:33 AM
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Spinning out a valve from within the box was never a priority on any install I ever saw, even before I undertook install work myself. If it were, we would all be using male-end valves and union fittings.

Obviously, there is a high degree of trust in the valve bodies not needing to be replaced {knock wood }
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My degree of trust in the valves is not the concern. As I said in my first post we change out the guts 99% of the time. But I Don't trust the landscapers Skid Steer steer or truck etc that does mechanical damage. They might pay for repair, but the time to redo it is Huge. Oh sure you have your valve in a safe place in fact so safe they are planting a tree beside it. What about Freeze heave??

Our Florida Sand is soft but it never freezes or shifts because of freezing. I have had the Nightmare of rebuilding manifolds so I always designed them a little more spread out. I never liked to run a main line and spread the Valve out all over the yard where they where hard to find even with my 521 or a clicker.

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I believe in giving each valve its individual space. Don't like to see valves grouped in a socialist manner.
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Old 09-26-2011, 09:28 AM
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if a valve box is in an area with vehicle traffic, one might have different priorities - traffic aside, the priorities are "will it endure, and can it be serviced" - if those conditions are met, any onlookers with offended sensibilities can go take a flying leap
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Old 09-26-2011, 11:44 AM
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Sorry I don't agree with your Liberal politics.
Politics have no place on this forum, take your comments elsewhere.
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Old 09-26-2011, 12:19 PM
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Thinking again on vehicles damaging a manifold. If the box and lid aren't broken, then what damage? Surely no one but the most blatant hack actually has the box touching the tops of any pipes entering or leaving the enclosure. This is why real pro work is done with full-depth boxes, with slots cut so as to provide an inch or so of clearance above the pipes.
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Old 09-26-2011, 05:49 PM
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if a valve box is in an area with vehicle traffic, one might have different priorities - traffic aside, the priorities are "will it endure, and can it be serviced" - if those conditions are met, any onlookers with offended sensibilities can go take a flying leap
I replaced these boxes about two months ago. They are not in a traffic area, the damage was done by the lawn crews over time. Much more traffic and the valves (3" Irritrol 100 3PS; very expensive) would have sustained damage, at least to the bonnet.

This is not unusual in S. FL and one of the reasons I don't glue in valves or gang valves on a manifold so I can't spin them out if I have to.

That's what Ric is talking about; S. Florida is not like any other part of the country.

Oh, the boots haven't incurred any damage yet since I was forced to get rid of the other ones because duct tape doesn't hold up well in the S. FL monsoon season.
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Old 09-26-2011, 06:01 PM
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you should be using concrete boxes for the expensive work in the insubstantial soils - mister homeowner can have antisyphon valves, and like it

PS - that looks like a crap box you get at the home center
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