Register free!
Search
 
     

Click for Weather
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 12-06-2011, 10:40 AM
Plantculture Plantculture is offline
LawnSite Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: South FL
Posts: 126
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ric View Post
Tgoldsmi

I am not familar with either of these franchise but in general Franchises are both GOOD & BAD.

GOOD in the fact they give you a established business plan that has a track record of working in most cases but not all cases.

BAD in the fact they take a lion's share of the Profits plus a big Buy in.

My general advice is to study these franchises with the goal of learning as much as you can about their business & marketing plan. Then strike out on your own without them. You success rate might be much lower but because you are not sharing your hard work with them, your bottom line is larger.

Here in Florida we currently have fairly good Local Government Mosquito Control. Therefore not much of a market for barrier control. However you might want to look into Auto Mist Systems for mosquito control. These are installed system not unlike irrigation but high on the house eves for repelling Mosquitoes automatic timers. Here are just a few links, there are more companies.

http://www.mistaway.com/

http://www.automist.com/

http://www.mistsprayers.com

The biggie with these systems is the Big sale up front and the Reoccurring Revenue from servicing these unit not unlike an irrigation system. Only these systems need more attention than a Irrigation system.


Here in Florida to legally install these systems, one needs both a Chapter 482 Structural Pesticide License and a Chapter 388 Mosquito License. With the slow down in construction and Florida's poor economy and good county Mosquito control, it is not a viable market at this time. Most homes already have Screening and swimming Pools are screen enclosed.
Ric
It is a viable venture especially on estate new construction. They are being installed regularly and are crazy expensive. Also the same systems are being installed as fly control in the fancy stables. Its a solid niche business to be in.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-06-2011, 12:08 PM
Ric's Avatar
Ric Ric is offline
LawnSite Fanatic
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: S W Florida
Posts: 11,140
Quote:
Originally Posted by Plantculture View Post
Ric
It is a viable venture especially on estate new construction. They are being installed regularly and are crazy expensive. Also the same systems are being installed as fly control in the fancy stables. Its a solid niche business to be in.
Plant

Why do you think I had the Mosquito Mist Websites available to C&P to this thread. I never research to answer a question here at Lawnsite. I only post off the top of my head.

I hate to be Pessimistic BUT. We have had very little construction of that type in the last few years in my area. To top that off there are a ton of Mist system installers who are working with out the proper GHP and Mosquito License. They can get away with it by claiming their system is only to be used for cooling mist. As long as they don't use any Pesticides they can get away with it legally.

But I will agree it is a viable market IF you can get in with a contractor who builds Estate Homes. The big selling point is no need for large Screened enclosures to distract from the Architectural lines of the House. AND of course Cost of those large screen enclosures. BTW another market for Mist system is Out Door Restaurant seating for Cooling effect only. However There are portable Misting Fans build just for mist cooling.
__________________
.

"TG doesn't give a rats ass about being "Responsible" as long as sales/production quotas are met. That's it in a nutshell. A recipe for disaster IMO." Ted Putnam 2/28/14

You can lead a Donkey to water but you can't make the Jackass Drink

"As Americans you have the right to be stupid." John Kerry

"Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid.” John Wayne.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12-06-2011, 01:23 PM
tgoldsmi tgoldsmi is offline
LawnSite Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 7
Thanks, Ric. Good to know I may be on the right track with these products. Will contact MGK to gain more insight. Sure appreciate the help and information the two of you have offered. I am open to any and all suggestions for sure.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 12-08-2011, 08:37 AM
humble1's Avatar
humble1 humble1 is offline
LawnSite Silver Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: MA
Posts: 2,308
Quote:
Originally Posted by nik View Post
If your looking to do any work near or in water with larvicides or adulticides that the landowner will most likely have to get a National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System (NPDES) permit. Thanks to the courts, even though you use a pesticide according to the label and even if it is labeled for use in water, you are polluting under the Clean Water Act. The property owner of where you are spraying may have to get it before you can work. And then THEY have to keep records. And under the Clean Water Act they can be sued by private parties.

Stay out of the water and your golden and none of that applies.

Our state is charging close to $1000 to get a permit and it's like $400+ a year to keep it. Not many willing to go near water out West for any spray work. This makes it even harder to try.
I am almost certain that the permit needs to be in place if you are treating modquitoes period, it doesnt matter if you are treating near water or applying larvacides. Also there is an acreage requirement, you need to be treating upwards of 1000 acres per season, so it would have no impact on someone starting out.
__________________
1-Z-plugger
1-lawnsolutions aerator wb
1-Bluebird 48 tow behind
1-Z-Spray Int
1-T-3000
1-Permagreen Mag
4-backpackmistblowers
1-Four Wheeler with 50ft air blast mist sprayer
1-F-250 4x4 supercab p/u
1-E-250 van w-enclosed trailer
1-E-150 van
2-landscape trailers
a ton of backpack sprayers
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 12-08-2011, 09:02 AM
humble1's Avatar
humble1 humble1 is offline
LawnSite Silver Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: MA
Posts: 2,308
Quote:
Originally Posted by tgoldsmi View Post
I am new to this site and would like to inquire if any of you professionals also provide Mosquito control? (i.e. barrier spraying) I have looked at a few franchise offerings in this niche market, but thinking about starting up my own business, due to the high dollar investment for a franchise. I have been doing my reseach as to what license and certifications are required at the state level here in Michigan, so I am good there. Looking more for advice on what would be the best and safest chemical products to apply with a back pack sprayer. Any and all suggestions will be appreciated grately.
I have my commercial mosquito and biting fly in MA, we do a fair amount of residential mosquito control, a dedicated truck with two backpacks plus a four wheeler with a A-1 50 foot air blast sprayer permenatly mounted, you can search some of my posts I put a picture of it on here.

Mosquito control is a slow growth operation, most people are single shot deals weddings and graduations. We do have bi-weekly customers, we are getting a bit of coin per acre and it is a luxury item. Joe middle class is not my customer. Im not bragging when I say that, but the price point and amount of applications per season is expensive. If you look at say a one acre yard, maybe they have 12000 sq ft of turf, lets say a fert company is treating at $6 per K thats $72 per application lets say they do a 5 app per year $360 per season, or if you are chemlawn you are charging $3.5 per K or $42 per round just above $200 per season.

Lets say I am getting $90 per acre barrier spray bi weekly May thru the end of Sept thats $900 per season, now add larvacide on top if they have any wet areas and we are well over $1400 per season. So because it is so expensive it is a hard sell on Joe middle class, IMO

As far as products, contact Ted Bean at Adapco down in florida they are the biggest rep for Bayer. Permetherin 10%ec can go thru a backpack for barrier applications 17.5 oz per acre control falls off at 7 days, Labda Cyhalothrin can go thru one as well and is what mosquito squad uses, Bifenthrin works well.
I like to rotate chemnicals, STAY AWAY FROM MALATHION, stinks to high heaven.

Plan on stocking your chemicals 2 weeks in advance, there are a lot of problems in shipping insecticides with food products including dog food, product gets taken off the truck if there is food products, so you cant overnight it, it comes by truck. We used to order 1 week in advance, and had to refuse a shipment that had a leaky box, so now we allow 2 weeks in case there is a problem.

The garlic base products are okay for a house that is in the middle of a neighborhood, you wont get good repelent if they are near a swamp, plus every one I kill cant breed everyone you repel can breed.

Riptide is more for misting systems.

Solo i a good backpack sprayer, good spray pattern over the other ones, but make sure you have a backup set of o-ring for tank lid, diffusers and cone nozzle, Solo shuts down mid summer and parts get back ordered.


Hit me up on a pm if you have any questions.
__________________
1-Z-plugger
1-lawnsolutions aerator wb
1-Bluebird 48 tow behind
1-Z-Spray Int
1-T-3000
1-Permagreen Mag
4-backpackmistblowers
1-Four Wheeler with 50ft air blast mist sprayer
1-F-250 4x4 supercab p/u
1-E-250 van w-enclosed trailer
1-E-150 van
2-landscape trailers
a ton of backpack sprayers
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 12-08-2011, 11:35 AM
tgoldsmi tgoldsmi is offline
LawnSite Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 7
Humble1-Thank you! I do have additional questions and wondering if you would be receptive to a phone call off line, from me?
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 12-08-2011, 06:05 PM
humble1's Avatar
humble1 humble1 is offline
LawnSite Silver Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: MA
Posts: 2,308
Quote:
Originally Posted by tgoldsmi View Post
Humble1-Thank you! I do have additional questions and wondering if you would be receptive to a phone call off line, from me?
you can send me a pm with your number, I can call you Fri at some point. I think you need 10 or 15 posts before you can send private messages. Correct me if im wrong.
__________________
1-Z-plugger
1-lawnsolutions aerator wb
1-Bluebird 48 tow behind
1-Z-Spray Int
1-T-3000
1-Permagreen Mag
4-backpackmistblowers
1-Four Wheeler with 50ft air blast mist sprayer
1-F-250 4x4 supercab p/u
1-E-250 van w-enclosed trailer
1-E-150 van
2-landscape trailers
a ton of backpack sprayers
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 12-09-2011, 10:22 AM
tgoldsmi tgoldsmi is offline
LawnSite Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 7
248-787-7446
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1998 - 2012, LawnSite.com™ - Moose River Media
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:36 AM.

Page generated in 0.10588 seconds with 7 queries