Register free!
Search
 
     

The Green Industry's Resource Center


Click for Weather
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-13-2011, 05:35 PM
A+Grounds's Avatar
A+Grounds A+Grounds is offline
LawnSite Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Brighton, Michigan
Posts: 158
backpack blowers and ethanol

every time at about this year the gas stations crank up the ethanol and one of my redmax ebz8001s suffer from it. throughout the year this backpack does not have the same power as my other 8001 and am looking to replace it. yes i have checked pure gas.com and there is no stations around me. i have tried shell, bp and mobil (local gas stations) 93 or higher octane and all of them make this 8001 run like crap. it has had a carb rebuild on it so the blower itself is fine.what is the most powerful backpack blower out there that is the least susceptible to reacting to ethanol.
__________________
2004 F-150 Heritage 4x4
2011 Lazer Z X 60" 38hp
2007 Turf Tracer HP 52" 17hp
Shindaiwa T272, M231, EB802
RedMax EBZ8500 EBZ8001
Stihl FS-130
Honda Hrc & Hrx
BillyGoat Force 18hp
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-13-2011, 05:46 PM
Patriot Services's Avatar
Patriot Services Patriot Services is online now
LawnSite Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Tampa FL
Posts: 8,544
Have you tried Ethanol Shield or one of the additives on the market?
Posted via Mobile Device
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-13-2011, 06:15 PM
A+Grounds's Avatar
A+Grounds A+Grounds is offline
LawnSite Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Brighton, Michigan
Posts: 158
i have tried sta-bil it had no effect on the troublesome 8001 and made the good 8001 run bad. these damn 8001s are temperamental if they weren't so powerful i wouldn't own them
__________________
2004 F-150 Heritage 4x4
2011 Lazer Z X 60" 38hp
2007 Turf Tracer HP 52" 17hp
Shindaiwa T272, M231, EB802
RedMax EBZ8500 EBZ8001
Stihl FS-130
Honda Hrc & Hrx
BillyGoat Force 18hp
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-13-2011, 06:15 PM
Ridin' Green Ridin' Green is offline
LawnSite Fanatic
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Michigan
Posts: 8,669
I have yet to have a problem from ethanol in any of my machines, whether it be the riders or handhelds, and that covers my entire lifetime, not just recently.

As far as your question, maybe you need to try a different oil in your mix.

I know there are other types of oils on the market, and like everything else brought up on this site, everyone has their favorite that they swear is the best. I can't say that mine is best, but since I have been using Stihl HP Ultra full synthetic oil in my machines, I have never had any problems, and the ones that were a little harder to start (as in new from the dealer) before I switched over are now easier to start as well. I run 93 octane minimum always, and about every fourth tankful run either Seafoam, or Star-Tron through them. Those additives really seemed to make a difference in how easy my old Stihl SH85 starts when compared to before.

Both my BR600M and my Husky 570 BTS (same exact blower as a RM EBZ7500) are more poweful than your 8001, and both start and run great. In fact, though the numbers favor the Husky, the Stihl is fully equal in top end performance, and actually a bit better all around, and it scoures the ground a bit better.

Last edited by Ridin' Green; 11-13-2011 at 06:23 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-13-2011, 06:24 PM
Patriot Services's Avatar
Patriot Services Patriot Services is online now
LawnSite Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Tampa FL
Posts: 8,544
Ridin does make a valid point. It might be the way ethanol effects the oil you use. Being a solvent it can wreak havoc with the mix. I just hate to see you spend big money on a new blower to solve a fuel problem.
Posted via Mobile Device
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-13-2011, 06:36 PM
A+Grounds's Avatar
A+Grounds A+Grounds is offline
LawnSite Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Brighton, Michigan
Posts: 158
riding now that you mention it ever since i switched from stihls standard oil to amsoil problems have started, ill try some synthetic stihl oil and pray it works.
__________________
2004 F-150 Heritage 4x4
2011 Lazer Z X 60" 38hp
2007 Turf Tracer HP 52" 17hp
Shindaiwa T272, M231, EB802
RedMax EBZ8500 EBZ8001
Stihl FS-130
Honda Hrc & Hrx
BillyGoat Force 18hp
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-13-2011, 07:00 PM
Ridin' Green Ridin' Green is offline
LawnSite Fanatic
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Michigan
Posts: 8,669
Quote:
Originally Posted by A+Grounds View Post
riding now that you mention it ever since i switched from stihls standard oil to amsoil problems have started, ill try some synthetic stihl oil and pray it works.
It may take a tank ot two, but it may actually solve your problem, and like Patriot Services mentioned, it'd be a shame to get rid of a good BP just because of a fuel problem.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-13-2011, 07:10 PM
A+Grounds's Avatar
A+Grounds A+Grounds is offline
LawnSite Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Brighton, Michigan
Posts: 158
true id hate to get rid of a good 8001
__________________
2004 F-150 Heritage 4x4
2011 Lazer Z X 60" 38hp
2007 Turf Tracer HP 52" 17hp
Shindaiwa T272, M231, EB802
RedMax EBZ8500 EBZ8001
Stihl FS-130
Honda Hrc & Hrx
BillyGoat Force 18hp
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-13-2011, 09:06 PM
cpllawncare's Avatar
cpllawncare cpllawncare is offline
LawnSite Silver Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 2,647
I had probems with my stihl Blower until I switched to the stihl premium synthetic oil and 93 gas.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-14-2011, 08:09 AM
jetta jetta is offline
LawnSite Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 211
amsoil is also synthetic
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1998 - 2012, LawnSite.comô - Moose River Media
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:21 PM.

Page generated in 0.09538 seconds with 9 queries