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Old 02-14-2012, 01:40 PM
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NO MORE PYRETHROIDS? - Perimeter Pest Control

With the new EPA regulations on synthetic pyrethroids, I am going to have to move away from Bifenthrin for my Foundation Sprays.

What other products do you guys prefer for perimeter sprays (non-specific pest control: spiders being the most common concern)?
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Old 02-14-2012, 02:27 PM
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Nothing. What would work on spiders is no longer legal in the US, even though it is permitted in Australia and many other countries in the world.
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Old 02-14-2012, 02:48 PM
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To add, I had a look at the label changes in its entirety. If treating under eaves for spiders, this is allowed because it is protected from rain. However, I am going to be affected by this change because one of the most effective treatment for roaches and mosquitoes is to apply from under eaves all the way down to the ground. This rule change illustrates why I would rather fire a customer than be pressured into applying anything right before it rains or in between rain storms. Lots of bureaucratic action may be avoided by not doing that. If something runs off from one of my applications, it goes straight to the beach, where it will make fish float.
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Old 02-14-2012, 03:12 PM
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I had a look at the label changes in its entirety.
Do you have a link? I need to do some studying myself.
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Old 02-14-2012, 03:18 PM
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I have found this phrasing twice:
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All outdoor applications must be limited to spot or crack-and-crevice treatments only, except for the following permitted uses:
o Treatment to soil or vegetation around structures
o Applications to lawns, turf and other vegetation
o Applications to building foundations, up to a maximum height of 3 feet

Other than applications to building foundations, all outdoor applications to impervious surfaces such as sidewalks, driveways, patios, porches and structural surfaces (such as windows, doors, and eaves) are limited to spot and crack-and-crevice applications only.”
So you could blanket the perimeter, hit the crack where driveway meets garage, spray the ??cracks?? beneath the windows? Hmmm... Sounds like a lot of hoop jumping...

Is this accurate? Still looking for an updated label, though...

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Old 02-14-2012, 03:25 PM
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It is. Applications to vertical surfaces are to be limited to around windows and doors or C&C with the idea that it is a spot application with less than 1 sq ft covered. Mosquito control will become an issue for me. They land on walls.
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Old 02-14-2012, 04:03 PM
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Will Termidor SC (fipronil) be affected? If not, that still allows for a cost competitive treatment.
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Old 02-14-2012, 04:11 PM
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Nope. However, Termidor applications to outdoor surfaces were always more restricted than pyrethroids. In actual practice, the pyrethroid restrictions are fairly liberal by comparison.
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With the new EPA regulations on synthetic pyrethroids, I am going to have to move away from Bifenthrin for my Foundation Sprays.

What other products do you guys prefer for perimeter sprays (non-specific pest control: spiders being the most common concern)?
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Old 02-14-2012, 05:41 PM
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Termidor applications to outdoor surfaces were always more restricted than pyrethroids.
Yeah, I was reading up on it: 1' up and 1' out, 1/2 gallon of carrier to do a 30'x50' equivalent perimeter.
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