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10% or Less 9 40.91%
20% or Less 4 18.18%
25% or More 6 27.27%
A significant 25% or more portion of my competition pays this way 4 18.18%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 22. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-22-2012, 12:46 PM
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Employees are good enough to make their employers wealthy then they are good enough to have their employers pay their taxes, UEI, WC, SS, etc.[/SIZE][/FONT]
I am intrigued by this statement there are 135,000 lawn site members atm can you even name 25 that qualify as wealthy? Sorry for picking on you but liberal talking points rub me the wrong way. You could of simply said if you have employees you need to be paying your tax obligations because its the right thing to do and left it at that.
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Old 04-23-2012, 01:34 AM
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I'm sorry rgl1990 but how can you get any facts out of your poll?
Are you a state or government shill posing this poll?

As for 1099 or any other payable solution to your question, tell the
feds and state your business is none of their god damn business.
##NOTE## Unless you don't have any business relationships or
contracts with them, refrain from telling them that.
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Old 04-24-2012, 07:44 AM
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That maybe because your in a smaller market compared to Chicago. Here you can pull on to a suburban street and actually see 6 different lawn mowing companies working at the same time, it nuts
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Old 04-24-2012, 07:58 AM
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I'm sorry rgl1990 but how can you get any facts out of your poll?
Are you a state or government shill posing this poll?

As for 1099 or any other payable solution to your question, tell the
feds and state your business is none of their god damn business.
##NOTE## Unless you don't have any business relationships or
contracts with them, refrain from telling them that.
Here you go again with your anti~government, anti~ tax rhetoric. Stop encouraging people to operate illegally. Tax evasion is serious and you stand to lose everything including your freedom to walk down the street.
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Old 04-24-2012, 08:12 AM
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Company's not too many. We still have illegals running around in a truck mowing lawns for cash and personal checks.

I agree, I am not sure how many. I suspect the big companies use the H2B program rather than run 1099's.
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:11 PM
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Hi everyone this should clear up any question of 1099 for "workers" not employees. Employees are just that you withhold taxes and match your portion and send it to the us gov. Sub contractors work with their equipment pay for their own gas and only give you a final invoice for the work and you pay for the one invoice. If you pay your subs weekly say $400.00 a week for 30 weeks and they use your truck, gas and equipment. They will be considered employees. "SEE IRS section 530 A" for more information on this.

Here is the latest news on the miscalculation of workers in the landscaping industry.

One important item The IRS has better ways of finding you than trolling this site.

Unemployment insurance claims, 1099 for subs on your schedule c income tax forms and sales volume over $500,000 a year

Over the last 3 years there has been a ton of new information

The IRS is hunting landscapers specifically for money!
Federal Dept of labor is hunting landscapers specifically for money!

State DOL is hunting landscapers specifically for money!

ICE is now is hunting landscapers specifically for money!


They are suppose to share information with each other but have found out that if one picks off the company and access fines there isn't much left for the others to pick at.
so they really are not telling each other anything anymore. Ice will come in and ask for I 9s and 1099s fine you and leave. They will not deport your workers or even talk to them they just want the money they know you will fire them and if you did it once you will hire someone else again and they will come back in a year or 2 for more money.

It is now a race to see who will fine you first.
Below are some links from the DOL talking to congress when they state over 62% of the landscaping industry pays workers as subcontractors. A study "The Economic Cost of Employee Misclassification in the State Of Illinois" states 28% of landscapers mis classify workers as independent subcontractors.

The state of California says up to 77% of southern california landscape companies are misclassifing workers as subcontractors.

Mr DeCamp from DOL:
I will say this to you in closing my remarks. The image
that is often conjured up of an independent contractor is a Web site designer, you know, someone who designs Web sites and Web pages for a multiplicity of clients and works out of his or her home, and is very much on the fly, on the go; an independent entrepreneur with a laptop and a vision and a business card and a chance to make himself or herself a wealthy person. Long may that person be treated as an independent contractor, because they are.

But there are people who are mowing lawns and driving trucks and working in garment linen factories, working in all different places around this country, who sure do look like employees to me.

Approximately 60 percent of the Wage and Hour Division's enforcement centers on low-wage industries, where violations of the laws we enforce tend to be the most prevalent. The agency devotes more than one-third of its enforcement resources to nine of those industries, including such sectors as janitorial services, construction and landscaping. The agency's experience has been that many of these same low-wage industries tend to have a high incidence of misdesignation of employees as independent contractors.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-11...0hhrg36728.htm


http://www.faircontracting.org/PDFs/...tion_Study.pdf

http://www.iowaworkforce.org/misclas...ationFinal.pdf

In California, misclassification is an enormous problem.
But we are an enormous state. The California insurance
commissioner has reported that 30 percent of employers in the state do not carry workers' compensation insurance, and that is one of the sure signs that those employers' workers are being treated as independent contractors.

"Misclassification of workers"

I know most will deny anything like this in our industry but the facts are facts and they are coming your way soon.
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Old 11-09-2012, 06:15 PM
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seriously 971 views and only 25 votes?
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Old 11-26-2012, 06:08 PM
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Friend of mine works for IRS auditing small business. She said you can pay out up to $600 to anyone without having to report it on your taxes
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:08 PM
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I am intrigued by this statement there are 135,000 lawn site members atm can you even name 25 that qualify as wealthy? Sorry for picking on you but liberal talking points rub me the wrong way. You could of simply said if you have employees you need to be paying your tax obligations because its the right thing to do and left it at that.
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Old 11-27-2012, 04:48 PM
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Friend of mine works for IRS auditing small business. She said you can pay out up to $600 to anyone without having to report it on your taxes
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So then all we have to do is hire and fire our employees every two weeks. Then hire a new employee, two more weeks, repeat.
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