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View Poll Results: Guys with hired staff, what percentage of your gross is paid out to them as wages?
Less than 10% 0 0%
10% >> 20% 0 0%
20% >> 30% 1 33.33%
30% >> 40% 2 66.67%
40% and greater 0 0%
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Old 05-18-2010, 06:43 PM
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Percent of gross paid out as wages?

For the guys that have hired staff, what percent of your gross income is paid to your staff as wages?

I would like to get a quick picture of where the cost of wages come into this line of business.

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Old 06-01-2011, 11:34 AM
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I'm a new business and I pay about 25% to my employee. This makes sure that the expenses are covered and the business and I both make money. When I first started I was actually paying to work. I was paying about 45% to him. What I did is took the cost of all my equipment and divided it over 150 jobs per year. and said I wanted everything to be paid for in 2 years. So the business has to make atleast X dollar amount (adding that cost plus gas, vehicle maintenance, etc.) per job to reach that goal. Plus I want to make a profit as well. And as the owner of the business I should make more.
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Old 02-20-2012, 12:34 AM
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30% is what we our guys. They make great money.
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:49 AM
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It is going to vary greatly from one to another. 30% is about as high as you might want to go for small maintenance. Across the board midsized guys tend to wind up in the 15-25% range. If you look at the top 100 companies many of them are operating at the 10-12% range. This is ideal. It should be that in an efficient operation a good employee grosses 100K in labor alone. Small guys struggle with inefficiency to they tend to get well under this.
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Old 02-20-2012, 07:13 PM
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Im calling bullshit on 10 to 12 percent for labor unless you are charging out the ass or labor associated with lawn care.
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Old 03-05-2012, 12:08 PM
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Im calling bullshit on 10 to 12 percent for labor unless you are charging out the ass or labor associated with lawn care.
33% including fair market wage for the owner.

Would like to see wages as a percentage of revenue minus subcontractors and COGS - seems like that would be a better benchmark by creating a level playing field for comparing a hardscapes company with a maintenance company.
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Old 03-12-2012, 12:30 PM
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21% for employees, 41% employees plus 2 owners salary, and 9% to sub contractors.
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